ZoneSense bug

Mirek_R

Hello Suunto users! I am owner Race S since last Friday. Moved from Forerunner 965; I made a lot of reseaech and adjustment in my new Race S. I installed app ZoneSense and tried it few times.

Sunday bicycle ride - after about 1 hour when I entered middle anaerobic zone (yellow) application had not come back to aerobic - counter was all time in yellow mark but when I reduced power it started to add time correctly to zone 1 but without changing colour into green. It seems that there is a bug in frontend.
Today’s run - I was in my 3 zone after application started after 10min and from the beginning showed 3 zone VO2 max. I was checking it every 5-20 minutes and was all time there. It means I was more then 1 hour in 3 zone (!). After synchronization with main aplication ZoneSense shows zone 1.

I am a newbe here I have no idea where I should report my observations. Maybe there is a moderator who is in touch with Suunto and could send it forward?

Brad_Olwin

@Mirek_R What HR belt were you using?

Mirek_R

@Brad_Olwin I am using Garmin HRM Pro Plus.

cosme.costa

@Mirek_R said in ZoneSense bug:

@Brad_Olwin I am using Garmin HRM Pro Plus.

Check your belt, could be faulty. Not the sensor but the belt.
If the belt readings are not good ZoneSense won’t work correctly. Check the HR graph and see if there are sudden spikes or out of range values.

dulko79

@cosme-costa Heart rate variability chart in Runalyze could also be used as indicator if the belt is broken? If there is a lot of noise in the chart if belt is broken?

cosme.costa

@dulko79 I think so, there is also a % of anomalies value in the side of that graph that can give an indication. However I do not know with which % you can say that the belt is faulty or needs to be cleaned or… but can give an indication.

In my opinion with ZoneSense we must change our way of thinking about the HR zones, this ZoneSense stuff is so promising and revolutionary that it blows my mind.

Mirek_R

@cosme-costa i have already checked graphs and I don’t see any anomalies…
I made 14km long aerobic running today in aerobic zone and almost all time ZoneSense indicated anaerobic but now after synchronization in app 98% is aerobic what could corespond with reality (av. heart rate 138bpm). In my opinion there is something wrong in frontend because results after synchro seems OK.

cosme.costa

@Mirek_R said in ZoneSense bug:

@cosme-costa i have already checked graphs and I don’t see any anomalies…
I made 14km long aerobic running today in aerobic zone and almost all time ZoneSense indicated anaerobic but now after synchronization in app 98% is aerobic what could corespond with reality (av. heart rate 138bpm). In my opinion there is something wrong in frontend because results after synchro seems OK.

It is really strange, try to softreset your watch and install/reinstall the Suunto Plus App. The tests that I did in trailrunning where pretty realistic compared with my feelings in the watch and app, I wore a Polar H10 strap.

Did you run more suunto plus app’s? If that is yes try to load only the ZoneSense (to discard something).

Mirek_R

@cosme-costa I used two apps in same time. I will use ZoneSense only and will see if this helps. If not then uninstall/install ZoneSense. I realy care because I think it could be very helpful. Thanks for sugestions.

SuuntoR

@Mirek_R or is it just this https://forum.suunto.com/post/154320 and will be fixed hopefully soon…

Mff73

@Mirek_R
Same bug today for me.
Climb S+ app in parallel to ZoneSense.
Gauges (circle and bar) stucked in anaerobic zone, but timers were counting “correctly” as per my feeling, and correct results are displayed in app after.

Vo2Max zone timer increasing but still orange tooth and circle

Aerobic timer increasing

Mirek_R

@SuuntoR Indeed, it looks the same. Another values “on fly” and another after synchonization. Let’s see if update will solve it.

Mirek_R

@Mff73 I see there is topic ZoneSense - maybe moderator could move our posts there? I had same issue. It means it is not coincident. @Brad_Olwin

halajos

@Mff73 my findings here: https://forum.suunto.com/post/154454

far-blue

I suspect there’s a chance the SuuntoPlus app is going to be using the data from the last sync as the basis for it’s live analysis because the watch might not have the computational power to crunch the full numbers directly. So I’d guess there’s a chance while it is learning about you that the suuntoplus app will be a bit out of whack for a few activities. Syncing with the phone app would allow the data to be re-analysed and then the suuntoplus app would be updated with better reference data for you for next time.

Just a thought.

Mff73

@far-blue
In the case of this bug, computation on the watch seems exactely the same as in app after sync (looking at times in zones). Just the display seems frozen in terms of graphics.

The_77

Another with a ZoneSense bug - stuck on calibrating after ten minutes, so no pointer and display looked off. Was using that, Burner and a route.

Interestingly, at the end I switched to breadcrumb and it resolved the issue.

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/edit from 27.9

Different bug today, using it in conjunction with a route and S+ Pace loops - it wasn’t stuck on calibrating this time, but rather showed no time in zones, and didn’t want to show a value for NGP.

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Mff73

Too many posts about zonesense, I continue here for this bug (not related to race S as I have a SV).
Run with only S+ ZoneSense yesterday (removing climb app) and nothing was stuck. Tends to prove, like others, a relation between ZS and other apps in parallel.