Race S vs Vertical
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@wmichi said in Race S vs Vertical:
I followed a route without turn by turn instructions, had AOD on (medium brightness), no smartphone notifications, watch was connected to a Coros HRM and I had the map screen on most of the time. I started with 79% battery and finished at 56% after 2 hours and 55 minutes. That’s about 7,5% battery drain per hour. So for extra long activities you really have to think about the battery drain and device settings. That’s something I could always completely ignore with the Vertical.
Thank you for the insights. Considering you had AOD on, it’s not that bad.
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@Stoke80 It will not be replaced. I return the watch, get my money back and order a new one. I haven’t waited for the money, I have already ordered a new one. I am pretty sure this watch will be on sale again, but with a new digital crown.
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Complementary feedback of my SRs : after first full charge battery drains way faster. Strange, I didn’t changed any settings. Let’s see how it evolves.
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Some feedback regarding the SRs that my wife is testing since one week ago to check if it would be a good replacement for her Fenix 6s pro:
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AOD: Off
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Sleep track: Off (she does not care about that metric)
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24/7 HR: Off (she does not care about that metric)
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Mobile notifications: Off (she does not care about that info)
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Average battery consumption per hour of GPS: 3%-4% (The Fenix 6s pro consumes 10% per hour)
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Battery consumption in 7 days (4h running with GPS + 1h strength workout no GPS) : 50%
Obviously she decided to sell the Fenix 6s Pro and keep the Suunto.
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@Stoke80 I have just received the new watch. It’s a difference like day and night. The crown on the new watch does not feel at all “stiff” and can be easily rotated with one finger, just like it’s supposed to be. Now I am really happy with my purchasement
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Thank you for the info. How easy does it feel now? I am somewhat undecided if mine is really „bad“.
I don‘t have that noise you had. But I really need to put pressure from the top on the crown to rotate it. Or I need to take two fingers so that the watch does not move on the wrist. -
@Stoke80 It’s hard to describe. It rotates smoothly and easily with one finger. I can scroll through the widgets even easier and faster than on the normal Race (faster because the crown is smaller). And I don’t need any pressure, I just put the finger gently on the crown and move the finger. At the same time it’s very precise. Also sweaty hands make no difference. There is a little resistance, so that the crown doesn’t move by itself. But it feels very well balanced.
You could contact support and ask what to do. I highly doubt it, that Suunto designed this watch in a way, that a user would need two fingers to operate the digital crown. I would ask for a replacement, refund or repair, if you are not satisfied.
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Thank you. Will contact support.
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Hello
For my part I have had the vertical for a year and I am very happy with it but seeing the arrival of the race and race s watches I ask myself a question:
Does anyone know why the sleep monitoring is different between the vertical and race/race s. And will the sleep phases ever be available on the vertical
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I just received my vertical from support (repair was very fast - send Monday, repaired Thursday, send back Friday ! ). Now I’ll have to deal between SRs and my vertical. I’ll probably use the race S most of the time for sleep tracking (I love the sleep phases tracking and its small size), and for small races or training when I don’t want to use hr belt…but the Vertical remains my dream watch. It’s just awesomely good looking and with so huge battery life ! But SRs really rocks ! If next top of the line gen of watch brings amoled screen with vertical battery life, it will be mine for sure !
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@Luis-Andés-Olmedo said in Race S vs Vertical:
Some feedback regarding the SRs that my wife is testing since one week ago to check if it would be a good replacement for her Fenix 6s pro:
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AOD: Off
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Sleep track: Off (she does not care about that metric)
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24/7 HR: Off (she does not care about that metric)
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Mobile notifications: Off (she does not care about that info)
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Average battery consumption per hour of GPS: 3%-4% (The Fenix 6s pro consumes 10% per hour)
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Battery consumption in 7 days (4h running with GPS + 1h strength workout no GPS) : 50%
Obviously she decided to sell the Fenix 6s Pro and keep the Suunto.
I quote myself to mention that my wife charged the Race S yesterday with 23% (today she had to do her long run of the week) after 10 days… very very good.
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By the way : is there a chance that sleep phases and nap finally arrive on SV ?
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Hi, I’ve read this post and it seems that everyone is talking mostly about hardware. I’m trying to decide between the 2 watches but have a few software-ish wondering-ments, perhaps someone would know? The most important one is:
Does the Race S have light/dark maps like the Race some time ago, or outdoor/high contrast/dark like the Vertical? I really like the outdoor and high contrast ones on vertical and would be disappointed if they aren’t available on the Race S.
Are the any other important software differences between the two? I only know for a fact that Race S does not have an option to set a custom battery mode, like the Vertical, but maybe there are more?
Btw, based on your, Race S users, experience, do you think the Race S’s battery would last enough for 15h training with best accuracy with navigation the whole time, notifications (and connection to the phone, if possible) turned off, AOD on, heart rate on?
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@Jakub-Kędzior said in Race S vs Vertical:
Does the Race S have light/dark maps like the Race some time ago, or outdoor/high contrast/dark like the Vertical? I really like the outdoor and high contrast ones on vertical and would be disappointed if they aren’t available on the Race S.
Race S: light - dark - high contrast
Light is basically outdoor, but looks better on AMOLED, and dark is more battery friendly.
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I just found this thread and would like to add my take on it. I owned a Vertical (Stainless Steel Non Solar) from almost the first day it was released. Throughout the first year and through several software updates, I saw it evolve from a good watch to an almost perfect watch. Then I lost it in the hustle of the mass start of triathlon… (don’t ask). Due to budgetary constraints I had to “settle” for the Race S (Stainless Steel).
My thoughts on the topics raised here:
• AMOLED vs MIP: the display of the Race S is very very beautiful and vibrant, perfectly readable in all conditions, but I do miss the genuine always-on-display of the Vertical. The always-on version of the AMOLED is just not the same…
• Battery life: the vertical (even the non-solar) was great obviously, but the Race S is certainly sufficient for most purposes. For me it lasts about 4 days with all bells and whistles on (24h HR, sleep tracking, notification, AOD, etc.) with roughly 6 hours of GPS sports tracking during those days.
• Optical HR sensor: I don’t notice a big difference. For everyday life the Vertical was good enough and for most sports I use an chest strap anyway (except for swimming, but there every watch I tested sucks).
• Form factor: this is where the Race S excels for me. The smaller size, not only diameter and weight, but also specifically thickness, make it much more comfortable, especially during sleeping. As many here, I am hoping for a Vertical S, but probably this will not come.
• Build quality: the Race S is very good, but I preferred the Vertical. Specifically the feedback from the buttons seemed better. I’m also not a fan of the crown wheel, although it does the trick… I am afraid of the Gorilla Glass. I managed to scratch all my gorilla glass watches up to now, I’m already mentally preparing for the first scratch on my Race S. The glass of the Vertical on the contrary was spotless until the last second. A small advantage of the Race S is that the slanted bezel seems more scratch resistant then the notched bezel of the Vertical, where sometimes the stainless steel started appearing in my case.
• Software: I love the advanced sleep tracking and even though there is absolutely no scientific basis I study the result almost every morning. I don’t like the absence of custom battery modes in the sport profiles. I would like to able to combine always-on-display with bad (or less good) GPS accuracy. I also would like the Race S to remember the last chosen battery mode for a given sport profile. A general annoyance for both watches was the inability to create a custom triathlon sport mode and the absence of other multisport modes like Ultrarunning or Swimrunning.So while I miss my Vertical, the Race S is a very decent replacement! If/when a vertical 2 comes out, I’m not sure what I would do.
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@Jan-Van-de-Velde I own both (my SV was send to repair this summer and I couldn’t train without watch, so I bought the SRs).
I share all your thoughts.
If my SV had advanced sleep tracking (sleep phases), I would probalbly use it every day and night like before…
But I now wear my SRs at night to have have sleep phases (and also because it’s lighter and smaller).
Screen of the SRs is awesome, but I much prefer the touchscreen navigation between screens of my SV. Build quality is great on both event SV nicer to me (plus sapphire and Ti)Let’s see what Suunto will bring us in the future, but no need to be a genius : next generations of watches will improve amoled watches battery life, and we’ll see OHR and other mesurements tracking improvements.
For now, SV + SRs is a “luxury” but lovely combination !
