Race S vs Vertical

Brad_Olwin

@Tieutieu I look forward to reading some of your long-term runs to hear more about how it lasts. 50k would be awesome to know

Here is a 50 K race with Vertical and Race S

Tieutieu

Small test of OHR of the Race s, trail running.

It’s not perfect, but it’s far much better than SV.
For training I will not take my belt all the time when using the SRs.

(No power today, I was suppose to do 6 rep…did only 3, and as you can see OHR perfectly recorded that it was going worst and worst ! )

dreamer_

@Mff73 bought finally the Race (but the Big one). Black steel because of the color (exactly the same weight as the F6X Pro I have weared for 5 years. So weight is fine). With those new ATH6 bands It will look fantastic.
So don’t know if I’ll buy the Race S in a future. It has some hardware fixes and in paper it’s the most advanced watch but I was worried about the screen size and the battery for long races.

dreamer_

@Brad_Olwin nice race and very good report!! Thanks

Highlands

@dreamer_ I have the black Race. With a nylon band feels lighter and even more comfortable.

@Brad_Olwin Awesome, thank you so much!

Tieutieu

End of first charge of my SRs. I’ve been wearing it non stop since I’ve received it last Monday.
5 full days of H24 hr tracking, sleep tracking on, spo2 off, notifications off, backlight low, turn to raise low. No « always on » display used on exercice. No belt for exercice, wanted to fully try ohr.
12 exercices, a bit more than 12 hours of exercices recorded.
Ohr is now very reliable on me, even if it’s not perfect. It’s now perfectly usable including for cycling.
I still had 10% batterie when I plugged it for charge.
15min later it was a 75% ! [edit : it was full in 35/40 minutes top]
I don’t change my previous feedback : very impressive small watch, awesome display (sharpness for maps is « wow » !!).

pschenn

@Tieutieu I noticed this as well! The Race S charges incredibly fast, even faster than the 9PP in my opinion.

wmichi

Today I did the first longer trailrunning activity with the Race S. The digital crown on my device is pretty awful, but I wanted to give it a last chance before returning the watch (and immediately getting a new one )

All in all the GNSS performance is rock solid. There was a lot of dense tree cover but the track looks super smooth and the displayed instant pace (and therefore also power) is perfectly useable like on the Vertical. On two other runs the Race S produced exactly the same track as the Vertical. Note: I compared runs on different days, so that’s not very scientific

Today is a very sunny and hot day where I live. Even in direct sunlight AMOLED was perfectly readable. In the forrest (shadows) I find the readability of the AMOLED screen even better than on the Vertical.

Vibrations of the watch are very good in my opinion and the speaker has a good volume.

Have I said how comfortable it is? You barely feel it on the wrist.

I followed a route without turn by turn instructions, had AOD on (medium brightness), no smartphone notifications, watch was connected to a Coros HRM and I had the map screen on most of the time. I started with 79% battery and finished at 56% after 2 hours and 55 minutes. That’s about 7,5% battery drain per hour. So for extra long activities you really have to think about the battery drain and device settings. That’s something I could always completely ignore with the Vertical.

Overall the watch is a joy to use. Only for longer activities I will still rely on the Vertical.

Out of the box the strap feels a little bit stiffer than the older ones (Athletic 5). But a few days later it already softened a bit, and now it’s really comfortable.

Unfortunately the watch restarted itself after about 2 hours (I’ve sent logs). And the digital crown on my device is completely unusable while running. With sweaty fingers it’s simply impossible to make it rotate with one finger. Even with two fingers it’s hard. I have already printed the return label and ordered a new one. Fingers crossed the next one does not have this issue.

EDIT: The Race S charges really fast, like @Tieutieu already said.

Stoke80

@wmichi said in Race S vs Vertical:

The digital crown on my device is pretty awful, but I wanted to give it a last chance before returning the watch (and immediately getting a new one )

Did you bet green light from support to change it? Will you get the replacement „only“ after sending back your watch?

Please tell us if the crown of the new watch is better. Mine feels a bit rough as well. Thank you

Tieutieu

First hours the crown of my SRs was a bit « stiff » but now it works smoothly.

@wmichi said in Race S vs Vertical:

I followed a route without turn by turn instructions, had AOD on (medium brightness), no smartphone notifications, watch was connected to a Coros HRM and I had the map screen on most of the time. I started with 79% battery and finished at 56% after 2 hours and 55 minutes. That’s about 7,5% battery drain per hour. So for extra long activities you really have to think about the battery drain and device settings. That’s something I could always completely ignore with the Vertical.

Thank you for the insights. Considering you had AOD on, it’s not that bad.

wmichi

@Stoke80 It will not be replaced. I return the watch, get my money back and order a new one. I haven’t waited for the money, I have already ordered a new one. I am pretty sure this watch will be on sale again, but with a new digital crown.

Tieutieu

Complementary feedback of my SRs : after first full charge battery drains way faster. Strange, I didn’t changed any settings. Let’s see how it evolves.

Luis Andés Olmedo

Some feedback regarding the SRs that my wife is testing since one week ago to check if it would be a good replacement for her Fenix 6s pro:

AOD: Off
Sleep track: Off (she does not care about that metric)
24/7 HR: Off (she does not care about that metric)
Mobile notifications: Off (she does not care about that info)
Average battery consumption per hour of GPS: 3%-4% (The Fenix 6s pro consumes 10% per hour)
Battery consumption in 7 days (4h running with GPS + 1h strength workout no GPS) : 50%

Obviously she decided to sell the Fenix 6s Pro and keep the Suunto.

wmichi

@Stoke80 I have just received the new watch. It’s a difference like day and night. The crown on the new watch does not feel at all “stiff” and can be easily rotated with one finger, just like it’s supposed to be. Now I am really happy with my purchasement

Stoke80

@wmichi

Thank you for the info. How easy does it feel now? I am somewhat undecided if mine is really „bad“.
I don‘t have that noise you had. But I really need to put pressure from the top on the crown to rotate it. Or I need to take two fingers so that the watch does not move on the wrist.

wmichi

@Stoke80 It’s hard to describe. It rotates smoothly and easily with one finger. I can scroll through the widgets even easier and faster than on the normal Race (faster because the crown is smaller). And I don’t need any pressure, I just put the finger gently on the crown and move the finger. At the same time it’s very precise. Also sweaty hands make no difference. There is a little resistance, so that the crown doesn’t move by itself. But it feels very well balanced.

You could contact support and ask what to do. I highly doubt it, that Suunto designed this watch in a way, that a user would need two fingers to operate the digital crown. I would ask for a replacement, refund or repair, if you are not satisfied.

Stoke80

@wmichi

Thank you. Will contact support.

yome77

Hello
For my part I have had the vertical for a year and I am very happy with it but seeing the arrival of the race and race s watches I ask myself a question:
Does anyone know why the sleep monitoring is different between the vertical and race/race s. And will the sleep phases ever be available on the vertical
Thanks