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@sebchastang yes but in movescount right not on the GPX file … Right ?
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:
@sebchastang yes but in movescount right not on the GPX file … Right ?
Yes, that’s right. So if it is not in the GPX file, do you know how are these extra data (mini apps logs) handled ?
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@sebchastang those are not exported afaik. They are for being shown on the watch and on movescount
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:
@sebchastang those are not exported afaik. They are for being shown on the watch and on movescount
Yes, but as these data are visible in the graph, I guess they have been synced with movescount.com and they must be stored somewhere outside of the watch?
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@sebchastang yes correct I suppose in native Suunto format that is a SML file.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:
@sebchastang yes correct I suppose in native Suunto format that is a SML file.
@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks! So I need to find a way to get the raw SML file when I sync my watch with Suunto app through suuntolink? Do you know if it is possible?
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@sebchastang yes. If you happen to sync your watch with Suunto App on Android, files that are sent to Suunto App service can be found in <Internal Storage>/Android/data/com.stt.suunto/files/smlzip/
The files are as close to ‘original’ binary logs stored in the watch itself as one can currently get. Format supported by https://quantified-self.io/ . There’s also https://github.com/mrvdb/suuntoapp2gpx to convert those files into GPX.
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@kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:
@sebchastang yes. If you happen to sync your watch with Suunto App on Android, files that are sent to Suunto App service can be found in <Internal Storage>/Android/data/com.stt.suunto/files/smlzip/
The files are as close to ‘original’ binary logs stored in the watch itself as one can currently get. Format supported by https://quantified-self.io/ . There’s also https://github.com/mrvdb/suuntoapp2gpx to convert those files into GPX.
@kukubau Thanks a lot for this information. I will have a look to those files. I guess they are also supposed to be located somewhere on my computer (Windows) when I sync through Suuntolink ? Can you please tell me where can I get them?
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@sebchastang ‘c:\users<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\Suunto\MovesLink2’ maybe ?
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@kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:
@sebchastang ‘c:\users<your user name>\AppData\Roaming\Suunto\MovesLink2’ maybe ?
@kukubau I mean with the new module Suuntolink which replaces Moveslink2. All data were correctly synced with moveslink2, so don’t need to get those files
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When I look at C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Roaming\Suuntolink I cannot identify the files which contain the data. Maybe they are deleted just after the sync is finished .Suunto Vertical
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@sebchastang One of the MovesLink file extraction methods involved taking the PC offline before syncing via cable and then checking the Roaming folder before going back online and losing the files to MC. Maybe try that now that you know what always lives there? Anything else could be your targets.
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@sebchastang Get Telerik Fiddler or another debugging proxy that supports https connections and you can capture those SuuntoLink files.
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@kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:
@sebchastang Get Telerik Fiddler or another debugging proxy that supports https connections and you can capture those SuuntoLink files.
lmao
I thought https://forum.suunto.com/post/65994 vs https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/j82nsj/how_to_get_activities_as_fit_or_tcx_from_suunto/g8aw7jt?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 was hilarious, but this is getting better and better
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@margusl Finally … qualified SAR. About time you showed up.
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@kukubau from QS you can also export to GPX.
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@kukubau @margusl @Fenr1r I have read all the links / post / articles you provided to me. Thanks again.
I understand that the only way to get the missing data from custom apps is to use MovesLink2 “offline”. I just uninstalled it last week and switched to Suuntolink. Do you think I can have the 2 softwares installed on my computer (moveslink2 and suuntolink) ? Maybe I should just care not to run them at the same time.
Once I get the SML files from moveslink2, I should be able to convert them into an other format (GPX, FIT ?) and then, import the converted files into Suunto app or an other platform.
I’m just wondering if Suunto app will be able to display custom apps data in the graphs. @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , can you please tell me if QS would be able to use the custom apps data and display them in the graphs?I really appreciate your help.
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@sebchastang no QS is not possible nor have I planned this
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks for your reply!
So even if I manage to retrieve the missing apps data, no web/mobile app seems to be able to display those data
Sunnto should have think about this and propose a workaround or an alternative to keep on using/visualize those data -
@sebchastang said in Feedback Export GPS File:
Do you think I can have the 2 softwares installed on my computer (moveslink2 and suuntolink) ? Maybe I should just care not to run them at the same time.
You can. Stand-alone variant of Moveslink2 - http://moveslink.static.movescount.com/Moveslink2.zip - is still available, so you don’t actually need to install it, just extract & run. And also take care of auto-run settings for both Moveslink2 & Suuntolink. IIRC Moveslink2 Movescount connection must be set up before it attempts to pull activities form the watch and generates SML files, this is probably bit easier to arrange now and not wait until Movescount access is closed for Moveslink2.
@sebchastang said in Feedback Export GPS File:
Once I get the SML files from moveslink2, I should be able to convert them into an other format (GPX, FIT ?) and then, import the converted files into Suunto app or an other platform.
You’d be facing multiple hurdles here. While adding custom data to GPX or FIT is nothing too challenging, getting other parties to respect your custom data and adjust accordingly is a whole different story.
@sebchastang said in Feedback Export GPS File:
I’m just wondering if Suunto app will be able to display custom apps data in the graphs.
Here’s a real life example to think about: Suunto App and power data from Ambits. Ambit3 users have been able to sync directly with Suunto App for almost 2 years for now and since spring we can also sync with Suuntolink, but we still don’t have our Stryd nor bike powermeter data in Suunto App. Even more annoying - we also lack power in all our connected 3rd party services. I would not even consider power as a “custom” data, after all everything related to power seems to fine with Spartans and S-line watches, meaning that infra in Suunto App is actually in place. This is something I’d take into account when guessing the chance of custom app data being supported by Suunto App at some day. Or in other words - all development targeting previous watch generations seems to have lowest possible priority.
If you can’t talk Dimi into adding custom app data support for sml-import in QS ( and I can actually understand him not being too psyched about the idea - Suuntolink2 is totally unsupported by now, number of users will dramatically decrease and by the end of the month and there will be just few SML-users left), there are few more projects with already existing SML support that might pick up this idea. In random order and off the top of my head -
https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah ,
https://github.com/Maproom/qmapshack ,
https://github.com/bwaldvogel/openmoves
(and no way it’s a complete list).I’d first approach Openmoves guys - from those projects it’s smallest, yet kind of active and as it deals only with SML & GPX files and is Ambit-specific, adjusting data models shouldn’t take too much effort. One possible downside - you need to host it yourself. But hosting it locally should work just fine, even in Windows.
. I now have to find the time to experiment this.