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    • sky-runnerS Offline
      sky-runner Platinum Member @GiPFELKiND
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      @GiPFELKiND said:

      I think many Outdoor enthusiasts would choose a new MIPS watch from suunto.

      Not necessarily. I am a core user for Suunto watches (trail ultramarathon runner), and I specifically looked for a watch with high contrast AMOLED display. It works better for my needs and it has a battery life for most grueling ultramarathons.

      MIP has some disadvantages compared to AMOLED - lower resolution, lower contrast, more thickness, which results in a bulkier watch. Plus, there are no round MIP displays in existence that are larger than 1.4" as far as I know.

      Suunto: Ambit, Ambit 3 Peak, 9 Baro, Race S, Race Ti, Vertical 2 Ti
      Garmin: Forerunner 210, Forerunner 610, Fenix 6X, Fenix 7X Ti

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        brechtvb Bronze Member @sky-runner
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        @sky-runner the low resolution bothers me too, otherwise I would opt for one too.

        Coros apex 4 46mm also only delivers 260x260 resolution

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          Bastienhere Bronze Member
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          Personally I like their performance metrics and software and incremental improvements will be welcomed.

          I think what I’m hoping for is better Race 3/3S design. Other competitors have clean modern designs like the Oppo Watch X3, Amazfit T-Rex range and Huawei GT line. Feeling elegant while performance focussed would be a win-win.

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            Tami999 Silver Members @Bastienhere
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            @Bastienhere

            @Bastienhere said:

            Personally I like their performance metrics and software and incremental improvements will be welcomed.

            I think what I’m hoping for is better Race 3/3S design. Other competitors have clean modern designs like the Oppo Watch X3, Amazfit T-Rex range and Huawei GT line. Feeling elegant while performance focussed would be a win-win.

            About design I actually don’t worry, Suunto got most beautiful sports watch 😁. I only wonder what new will Race 3 have since Race 2 was released year ago. Heard rumors only about AI Coach with subscription which completely don’t interest me, but if there will be more changes, especially big ones I’ll consider change.

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              Egika Platinum Member @Tami999
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              @Tami999 while I honestly don’t know details about this AI coach thing, I still wonder how such a thing as a paid subscription could be part of a single watch firmware and not just hook onto the platform (aka Suunto App)…

              t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Titanium, S9PP Titanium, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S Titanium Courtney, Run Lime, Race 2, Vertical 2 Titanium

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                brechtvb Bronze Member @Egika
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                @Egika do no underestimate the marketing and the sales department.

                The Race 2 didn’t really add things over the Race 1 or S, just a better heart rate sensor and you could run 3 suunto+ apps during training.

                If the Race 3 isn’t going to drastically introduce new capabilities, it all looks quite dead. I doubt many users are going to pay for an AI platform when the watch is already overpriced.

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                  Egika Platinum Member @brechtvb
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                  @brechtvb It does not look dead at all to me. Whoever wants to buy a sports watch, will look for the most recent model.
                  Next year Race 3 seems to be this: the most recent model. It can just replace Race 2 and will sell instead of this one.

                  Most users in this forum already own a Suunto. I don’t think that new models necessarily target users of Race 2. You get a little better specs here and there and have a most recent model. No need to change if you have a Suunto. But put current technology into you watches before they become outdated hardware wise.

                  And what I wanted to say with my previous post is, that a AI subscription in my point of view makes sense only independently from watch hardware. So that users with existing watches can benefit from it, as well as buyers of new models don’t necessarily need to invest in both at the same time.

                  While you mention overpriced: look at what Garmin wants for Fenix 9… This is what I call overpriced, compared to Suunto’s prices…

                  t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Titanium, S9PP Titanium, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S Titanium Courtney, Run Lime, Race 2, Vertical 2 Titanium

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                    brechtvb Bronze Member @Egika
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                    @Egika race 2 currently costs 500 euro on suunto.com while it cannot reliably connect to basic bluetooth sensors. That concludes on the overpricing.

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                      Egika Platinum Member @brechtvb
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                      @brechtvb said:

                      @Egika race 2 currently costs 500 euro on suunto.com while it cannot reliably connect to basic bluetooth sensors. That concludes on the overpricing.

                      we are discussing about Race 3 and Race3s in this thread and I understood you were referring to these watches as being overpriced.
                      Now you say you think that Race 2 is overpriced. This takes the discussion into a way that leads away from the topic…
                      What makes you think that Race 3 and 3s are overpriced?

                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Titanium, S9PP Titanium, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S Titanium Courtney, Run Lime, Race 2, Vertical 2 Titanium

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                        brechtvb Bronze Member @Egika
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                        @Egika they will not be priced less than that, and I can only assume the same software platform is going to be used for now.

                        To add: so you don’t deny race 2 is overpriced.

                        To me the race s 2 and race s are overpriced, so what should make me think race 3 will not be overpriced.

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                          Tami999 Silver Members
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                          Race 1 was great deal when released. Perfectly priced.
                          Race 2 higher price for new OHR sensor - mostly (few more things). Price is “okay”
                          Race 3 we dont know price but for sure will be even higher than Race 2. Or they just change regular price of Race 2 to be lower. No idea what new functions will Race 3 have, but if there will be subscription (monthly pay) plus no new major things and price will be much higher than Race 2, i dont know how many people will buy 3 instead of 2. Not to mention that when Race 3 will be released, Race 2 may get discounts. Iam interested in the way Suunto will go and what will bring.

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                            Elipsus Gold Members
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                            I’m hoping very very much that the Race 3S will be with a Sapphire glass.
                            The Race S is the only one in the lineup with a Gorilla glass and a friend have it (he had a 9 peak before) and its scratched like crazy while my 9 peak pro is looking brand new, Sapphire is pretty much a dealbreaker for me.

                            At least for the titanium version it would make sense

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                              Tami999 Silver Members @Elipsus
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                              @Elipsus said:

                              I’m hoping very very much that the Race 3S will be with a Sapphire glass.
                              The Race S is the only one in the lineup with a Gorilla glass and a friend how mine have it (he had a 9 peak before) and its scratched like crazy while my 9 peak pro is looking brand new, Sapphire is pretty much a dealbreaker for me.

                              At least for the titanium version it would make sense

                              I’ll never buy watch without Sapphire glass. That’s reason I didnt get Race S. All my Suunto watches were scratched (bezel) but screen always like brand new.

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                                brave_dave Bronze Member @Egika
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                                @Egika I am really interested on how the prices turn out. If you look at the hardware specs and software capabilities and compare it to smart watches and smartphones, the whole sport watch market is completely overpriced. And no, it is not justifiable by all the pseudo metrics that are supposed to help you get fitter. I suspect that the whole market just follows the greediness of Garmin irrespectively if it is justified😅

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                                  André Faria @brave_dave
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                                  @brave_dave if people buy…why shouldn’t the other brands do it?
                                  Fenix 9 was announced 25/8, I can tell you that on the 26/8 vinted was already “flooded” with Fenix 8s…

                                  We can criticize garmin, but for sure something they are doing ok for having the fan base/recurrent client.

                                  Regarding Race 3/3S, I hope they maintain the sleek design of race s, and that they get and hardware/platform whatever that allows them full potential updates/features in case today that is an issue…

                                  While garmin starts to be “too much” in terms of features/metrics etc, I believe suunto could benefit from a just tiny bit more of features/customization baked in firmware (live track, resume later, more options of complications on watchfaces, etc)

                                  Suunto Race S | Ambit 3 Peak Sapphire | Kailash | Hammerhead Karoo 3
                                  Garmin Edge 1040 Solar

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