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    • dreamer_D Offline
      dreamer_ @jjpaz
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      I can’t confirm the Race 2 now but I’m posting this because I can confirm the Vertical 2 in the track I was talking here:

      https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15071/several-navigation-issues-feedback/39

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      All watches in exactly the very same wrist position, but different days. It’s pretty interesting to see how I’m having so similar distances considering I’m running in different days. But in the other hand, it’s a track I know really well. There’s road but trail with several tree zones with dense forest.

      Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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        Joaquin Moderator @dreamer_
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        @dreamer_ similar distance all good 👍

        Keep in mind that my test isn’t a standard route test; it’s a course specifically designed to check trajectory/distance in challenging situations. No one will run around a loop like a hamster in real life 😅However, it’s very useful because we can have similar sections on our routes, and this gives us enough information to know if our watches will handle them with sufficient accuracy. Obviously, this is visible in a test like this, but in real-world route tests, it might seem like all the watches perform similarly, even if one fails on a 40-meter section. But when you put it through this rigorous testing, you see exactly what’s good and what’s bad.

        Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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          dreamer_ @Joaquin
          last edited by dreamer_

          @Joaquin yes, it’s just the Vertical 2 is giving exactly the same result (and 2 times) as the Fenix 8 in my track. While the others, have slightly differences even in this track.

          Thank you so much for this!! Really interesting, and very nice work

          Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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            chus1962 @Joaquin
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            @Joaquin Wow, great work!

            Just out of curiosity, how did you get the GNSS distance?

            Any program that processes a GPX file will do some kind of filtering to calculate the distance, and it will give a lower value than if I simply take the GPX points, calculate the distance between them, and add them up (which is what I understand to be the actual raw distance).

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              Joaquin Moderator @dreamer_
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              @dreamer_ thank you for your feedback and help ❤️‍🔥

              Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                Joaquin Moderator @chus1962
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                @chus1962 internal tools but is not the important here 😉 Users will only see the total distance processed, so it is only useful for internal engineering and software analysis.

                Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                  dreamer_ @Joaquin
                  last edited by dreamer_

                  @Joaquin this is very interesting. Btw, it’d be really nice if you could also add the Race S to the test (not for the shots here but to have internal tests for you now you are doing all this work) and also switch the position of all watches several times in the arm, so you know what are exactly the measurings of all watches in the very same position. I know it means many runs but it also means that you have the very same references several times for all (I think).

                  Thank you so much for this.

                  Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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                    Joaquin Moderator @dreamer_
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                    @dreamer_

                    @dreamer_ said in Race 2 accuracy:

                    @Joaquin this is very interesting. Btw, it’d be really nice if you could also add the Race S to the test (not for the shots here but to have internal tests for you now you are doing all this work) and also switch the position of all watches several times in the arm, so you know what are exactly the measurings of all watches in the very same position. I know it means many runs but it also means that you have the very same references several times for all (I think).

                    Thank you so much for this.

                    Race S is super accurate device 👌is a small but powerful machine.

                    Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                    • JoaquinJ Offline
                      Joaquin Moderator
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                      @dreamer_ I did an easy out-and-back route to the hill near my house and also changed the watch placement compared to yesterday’s loop. Here you can clearly see what we discussed yesterday: when you are not constantly repeating a technically difficult section like my loop, the differences become almost negligible — BUT THEY ARE STILL THERE.
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                      I used the Pace Pro and the T-Rex 3 Pro on my right hand. Since it was an out-and-back route, theoretically the distance should be identical.

                      You can also clearly see how the kilometer markers overlap almost perfectly on the V2, R2, and 970, which is honestly a very good sign regarding GPS consistency and distance measurement. The overlap between those devices is excellent.
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                      The out-and-back format is actually very useful for this kind of testing because it removes many variables and makes small GPS deviations much easier to spot. In normal conditions most users would probably never notice these differences, but for people who regularly test devices or spend a lot of time in complex terrain, they are still visible.

                      This is exactly why continuing to improve GPS filtering, track smoothing, and altitude handling remains so important, especially for mountain users and people training in difficult environments.

                      P.S. I know you enjoy testing devices, so try the T-Rex 3 Pro with the latest software version and you’ll understand why it is so important for us to keep working on good GPS and altimeter performance 😉

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                      Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                        dreamer_ @Joaquin
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                        @Joaquin I completely agree with your posts. In fact, today I tested my wife’s Run and even in my track, I’m finding the Run more similar to the Vertical 2 than the T-Rex 3 Pro. Not only the GPS but specially things like the altimeter, where even a watch like the Run is clearly better than that watch.

                        I did not notice that since you posted your loop tracks, the differences were just too small to even have a look at them

                        It is a fantastic finding and super nice work. And one thing, these posts makes you think how nice are the quality testings you are doing.

                        Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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                          Joaquin Moderator @dreamer_
                          last edited by Joaquin

                          @dreamer_ you should be Suunto tester ❤️‍🔥

                          Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                            dreamer_ @Joaquin
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                            @Joaquin said in Race 2 accuracy:

                            @dreamer_ you should be Suunto tester ❤️‍🔥

                            I’d love that.
                            I’m super happy with my Vertical 2 Joaquin. It’s a fantastic device and super accurate in everything.
                            Thanks!

                            Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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                              isaac.net @Joaquin
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                              @Joaquin wonderful work, Joaquín. Thank you!

                              Is there any estimate for when this update will arrive in Race 2?

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