Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes
-
@DrSilverthorn I completely disagree! Zones will change for sports but HR Max is a single value, period! This is physiology.
Vector/T6c/Vertical 2 Ti
-
I managed to initially test the new software in relatively poor weather. Calculating elevation gain in moderate winds finally worked very well. At least, during moderate winds.
And as I mentioned earlier, none of the bugs I’ve been reporting on for many updates have been fixed. Specifically, the inability to change routes during ascent/descent, the crazy breadcrumb, and the occasional lack of updating of the current position on the map.
-
Hi everyone, thanks for your input. I’ll enter my maximum heart rate achieved in both sports, but I’ll configure different ranges for each discipline since certain muscles or physical qualities are more involved. Thanks for your contributions.
-
@Brad_Olwin go back and read my original post. We are in violent agreement. That being said, using a single HRmax value for purposes of training load computation, when using multiple sports is suboptimal, and IMO ‘wrong’.
Suunto Race Ti, Vertical Ti, Vertical 2 Ti, Garmin Enduro 1/2, Polar VV2
-
@DrSilverthorn Its not the HRmax that is used for Training Load in my experience, its the zones - especially the thresholds. And those you can set per sport
-
@DrSilverthorn agreed.
Heart-rate–based training load metrics rely on normalizing effort relative to a reference such as maximum heart rate, implicitly assuming that a given percentage of HRmax represents a comparable level of physiological stress. In reality, HRmax is sport-dependent, varying with muscle mass involved, body position, contraction type, and neuromuscular recruitment; most athletes reach higher maxima in running than in cycling or other seated sports. Applying a single HRmax across multiple sports therefore misaligns intensity zones, systematically under- or over-estimating load for at least one activity and biasing cumulative metrics like weekly or chronic training load. This error is not random but structural, making cross-sport load comparisons unreliable and increasing the risk of hidden fatigue. For multi-sport training, sport-specific HRmax values or preferably sport-specific thresholds are required for physiologically defensible load estimation.
SR, SVti (Mammut Edition), SR2, Suunto Wing
-
@BastMaSVSRS9PP said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:
@DrSilverthorn agreed.
Heart-rate–based training load metrics rely on normalizing effort relative to a reference such as maximum heart rate, implicitly assuming that a given percentage of HRmax represents a comparable level of physiological stress. In reality, HRmax is sport-dependent, varying with muscle mass involved, body position, contraction type, and neuromuscular recruitment; most athletes reach higher maxima in running than in cycling or other seated sports. Applying a single HRmax across multiple sports therefore misaligns intensity zones, systematically under- or over-estimating load for at least one activity and biasing cumulative metrics like weekly or chronic training load. This error is not random but structural, making cross-sport load comparisons unreliable and increasing the risk of hidden fatigue. For multi-sport training, sport-specific HRmax values or preferably sport-specific thresholds are required for physiologically defensible load estimation.
Tell that to Coros and his “One HR zones for all”…
-
@BastMaSVSRS9PP said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:
Heart-rate–based training load metrics rely on normalizing effort relative to a reference such as maximum heart rate, implicitly assuming that a given percentage of HRmax represents a comparable level of physiological stress.
Possibly this assumption of percentage of HR max is used as the reference isn’t correct after all? If Suunto uses HR zones for training stress calculation, then those are the reference…
-
@jjpaz Or see Polar’s implementation where you can set maxHR and zones for each sport profile.
This is the way to go.
I did a stress test in a laboratory on a bike and my maxHR was 10 beats lower than during a running session. My cardiologist assured me that this was normal because cycling is a low-impact sport that does not engage as many muscles as running. -
@Raphes67 yeah, but it is the maximum HR that you reached by doing that sport not the maximum HR your heart can actually do. The latter one keeps the same.
