Suunto Race 2 General Discussion

[Jan Suchánek]

@sky-runner In my opinion, the heatmap is also created from these inaccurate routes. So it doesn´t have to be right.

[sky-runner]

@Jan-Suchánek Heatmap is created from a large number of activities so it gets averaged. That is especially true if you look at Strava where heatmaps include data from all brands, which would avoid systemic errors from one particular brand.

[Bud_T]

For someone who has both Race and Race 2: is the Race 2 more comfortable on the wrist? My Race has such sharp lugs that I need to place a piece of sticky tack putty on the back right lug of the case to keep it from cutting into my bony wrist (see pic). Is the Race 2 case different?

[Tami999]

@Bud_T said in Suunto Race 2 General Discussion:

For someone who has both Race and Race 2: is the Race 2 more comfortable on the wrist? My Race has such sharp lugs that I need to place a piece of sticky tack putty on the back right lug of the case to keep it from cutting into my bony wrist (see pic). Is the Race 2 case different?

For me its so big difference. Lugs never bothered me, but I never feel 100% comfortable with Race 1 Titanium, no matter spot on hand. After ordered Race2 Titanium and put in on my hand I already knew it was worth exchange just for that small change. Its super comfortable as for 49mm watch (I using default strap). I instantly put my Race1 on sale and sold it (it was almost brand new!!! and lost just few dollars. With textile strap You’ll probably be even more comfortable and lighter, but i like silicone one, just wash it under water after exercise and fresh ready to go, using soap + brush every few days to clean it completly. With textile it takes smells and dirt much faster. I would say SO FAR Race2 dont have big differences compared to Race One except heart rate sensor (which i find is very good) and they did all small changes that i didnt like in race 1. More comfortable, crown is clicking (in race1 when dirt gets in or cleaning, it stopping), a bit better and bigger screen, better HR sensor like i mentioned, faster UI and maps. Its just , Race 1 Pro " feeling. Time will tell what new brings :).

[szleslie]

@Bud_T If you want to keep Race 1 you can buy straps like this.
strap from Temu

Or you can buy a NATO strap if you do not use the optical sensor.

Race 2 lugs are different. They are above the case back surface. They are smaller and rounded. I had Race 1 but sent it back due to rubbing issue. I had marks on my wrist and it was painful on the bike. Race 2 does not left marks just the optical sensor. When I put Race 1 onto a flat surface without strap it sat on the four lugs. Race S is better. The highest point of the case at the back is the optical sensor. Race 2 is better in this regard. No marks on my wrist from the lugs.
Definitely worth the change.

[Egika]

@Bud_T yes, the lugs are one of the big improvements of Race 2 compared to Race.

[Jeffrey Tillack]

@raven Suunto need to bring back the charger on my 4 year old (5?) Baro. Can barely get it off the watch the magnet is so strong! Great for charger on the go as it sits in place so well. Whereas my Race S charger is just terrible. If the watch isn’t “just right” it won’t charge.

[Bud_T]

@szleslie thanks. I tried straps like that but didn’t really like them. It is good to hear that Race 2 is different this way.

[Egika]

@Jeffrey-Tillack not possible.
As you might know, with the introduction of S9P, the GPS module was subject to break with the strong magnets and charging current at the same time.
That’s why the S9B magnet could not be used anymore.
The current solution with Race 2 is holding up very well!

[tas2581]

@Bud_T

Not only lugs decreased, all geometry changed. Race 2 have a higher point on the heart sensor, positioning watch fit on wrist much higher, improving access to all buttons also ventilation. I had no problems with lugs but had constantly autoclicking crown button in Race 1, that also have been resolved in Race 2

[Jugger]

How long does battery last in Race 2? Let’s say 7 hours of exercise per week with best GPS, HR and sleep tracking on. Also notifications and AOD on. Can you turn AOD off and how does that effects? Just want to compare against Vertical and possibly soon to be released Vertical 2.

[Tomas5]

@Jugger First charge of Race 2
Around 9-10h of excercise with GPS which included in

• 2h of AOD
• 5h+ of Navigation

24/7 HR tracking, sleep tracking, hrv, blood oxygen, …
Brightness (3days medium, other days low)

Battery went from 100% to 2% in 9,5 days.

Second charge:
After 4,5 day i have 72% of battery. All tracking enabled. Medium brightness. AOD disabled all the time. 1h and 20minutes of GPS activity.

I saw that while AOD enabled, GPS activity consumed more battery but i don’t have exact number. But it was noticable i thing. My fiend with Race S talks the same. Ask again after few weeks maybe. Overal battery is fine. It looks like with 1h of GPS per week i will be able to get 16days based on i had 75% after 4 days.

[dulko79]

@Tomas5 2h of AOD was that on a bike?

[Tomas5]

@dulko79 yes it was on bike becase without AOD it was hard to see anything. I tried it on my wrist and handle bars. With AOD it was fine but i noticed while on wrist that brightness changes based on my wrist angle. Probably based on light hitting watch display?

[dulko79]

@Tomas5 did you maybe track how much did the bike ride eat the battery?

[Tomas5]

@dulko79 i have this:
Unfortunately i didn’t write down battery status just before and after excercise. But it was somewhere around 10-12% during whole ride (2h5m) including AOD navigation, and some additional pause for around 30minutes in middle of excercise.

It was during first week with watch. I thing second week it discharge more slowly. Don’t know why. I will hope get some more rides with exact numbers but now is bad weather for whole week.

[dulko79]

@Tomas5 Great, thanx, keep us posted.

[Jugger]

@Tomas5 Thanks for the info. My Vertical is usually at 20% after 14 days of my mentioned use.

[Mff73]

@Tomas5
Battery % of each activity is contained in the fit file, no need to write them.
Export fit file, use any tools (online/offline) to view the content and you will see battery evolution per activity.

[Tomas5]

@Mff73 Thanks for info. I didn’t have idea about this.
@dulko79 @Jugger here is more info:

In all activites I had Rise to Wake enabled (except when AOD enabled). And all the time I have enabled everything possible, tracking HR, sleep tracking, notification, HRV, blood oxygen. I don’t use only weather widget on watch.

This is hiking, Best GPS, AOD off, Navigation on all the time (most of time i had map view, possibly consumes more than other views ?? Just guessing because it is harder to render map than just few numbers i think), Backlight low. Between 12:42 and 13:39 i had paused activity. It was on top of mountain and there was coffee bar

on average 2.8% per hour for this activity

This is walking activity (first day with watch so I was checking it during activity much more often than usually). Best GPS, walking activity, Backlight medium, AOD off. In the middle of walk i was for 15 minutes inside building. I think I had paused activity.

on average 1.6% per hour for this activity

And this is mentioned bike ride, Best GPS, Navigation, Most of activity with AOD on, 1/3 of activity backlight medium, 2/3 backlight low (I was testing different behavior so no exactly sure):

on average 4.6% per hour for this activity

Hope I calculated percentage correctly