Suunto ZoneSense

martintrail

@Dušan-Ković thank you for videos.
I understand the need for the HR belt. I just don’t know if the one that was sold is enough or if there is a new one now.

lessthanmore

@martintrail To my understanding, no.
See the FAQ:

Can ZoneSense be used with any heart rate belt?

Yes, any heart rate belt that provides beat-to-beat data can be used with ZoneSense. However only Suunto hr belt works in swimming with its inbuild memory.

Mff73

@lessthanmore said in Suunto Zonesense:

@martintrail To my understanding, no.
See the FAQ:

Can ZoneSense be used with any heart rate belt?

Yes, any heart rate belt that provides beat-to-beat data can be used with ZoneSense. However only Suunto hr belt works in swimming with its inbuild memory.

meaning it will not work with Polar OHR (veritysense) . I will have to revive my Movesence HR belt to test this app

Antoine

So it is only with HR belt, it does not work with optical sensor on the watch ?

Samuel Pirttikangas

@Antoine No OHR doesnt give accurate enough HRV data

T3 article explains it in a simple way:

“One thing to note is that ZoneSense requires a heart rate monitor for accuracy, as wrist-based optical heart rate monitors can’t measure HRV accurately during exercise. While this might feel like a step back for some, especially given how convenient wrist-based monitoring has become, the belt is essential for the depth of data ZoneSense provides.”

Also there is a ton of information in the links provided in the “ZoneSense app” page in Suuntoplus store. You will probably find all the answers to questions there.

Egika

This is probably THE big innovation in the field of sports tech this year!

Not another fake metric, but a real support for athletes during races.

lessthanmore

@Mff73 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

meaning it will not work with Polar OHR (veritysense)

Not sure about that. I’ll test it anyways.

Samuel Pirttikangas

@lessthanmore

https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/sports/News-Articles-container-page/zonesense-faq/:

"Can ZoneSense be used with an arm heart rate monitor?

Arm heart rate monitors use optical heartrate. This cannot be used to measure the beat to beat data accurately during exercise, therefore ZoneSense is not available for these sensors."

Dušan Ković

@Samuel-Pirttikangas Ah, I no longer have HR belt, only Verity Sense… Nevertheless, this is amazing feature that will probably push me to get HR belt again

Luis Andés Olmedo

https://www.correrunamaraton.com/suunto-zonesense/ (in spanish)

TrailEyes

Here’s my writeup on ZoneSense based on Suunto’s reveal webinar recently: https://www.actionhub.com/news/2024/09/18/suunto-zonesense-app-innovates-heart-stress-data-for-athletes/

The_77

I’m curious to see what it’s like now it’s “live” after it slipped in and out of beta a month or so back. Because some of the aerobic threshold estimates for my old runs are interesting. Appreciate margin of error on old stuff was discussed in the articles.

VoiGAS

@Samuel-Pirttikangas Finally something I can use my HR belt for. Yes !

Mff73

@lessthanmore said in Suunto ZoneSense:

@Mff73 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

meaning it will not work with Polar OHR (veritysense)

Not sure about that. I’ll test it anyways.

Not 100% sure neither, but with veritysense, there is no IBI data registered by the watch (as far as I remember, need to recheck)

Antoine

Does it work with all HR belt Suunto ? Like the HR belt Suunto available before the “SUUNTO SMART” (one that i bought with a Suunto Ambit 3) ? Or it works only with SUUNTO SMART ?

Ps: now i have a Suunto Vertical.

Egika

@Antoine Ambit 3 belt will do. It has RR measurement and is BT.

nseslija

@TrailEyes Link is not working…

Egika

@nseslija said in Suunto ZoneSense:

@TrailEyes Link is not working…

works for me

isazi

@The_77 let me comment on this. The mapping between ZoneSense and thresholds in terms of HR is there mostly because people like their zones, and would fight over the number and meaning of them, even if science says that you basically have three cardio zones

So, ZoneSense is a way to get rid of zones, and have another metric to separate aerobic/anaerobic/VO2max efforts during a workout.

But, people want zones, so using ZoneSense it would also be possible to get aerobic/anaerobic zones to set your thresholds accordingly, especially if you do not use a chest strap at all times. But ZoneSense uses data that can change day by day, during the same day, affected by temperature, stress, food and drinks, and everything else.

So, no need to change your zones every single day because of what ZoneSense may say, better to still plan tests for aerobic and anaerobic thresholds, and see what ZoneSense tells you about these workouts, and set your zones.

And if one day you see that your HR is Z2 according to the zones you set, but ZoneSense on the S+ app tells you that you are in anaerobic or VO2max effort, maybe that day you are particularly tired and can lower your effort

The_77

@isazi that’s what I thought - the underlying data of aerobic or anaerobic lined up with what I already thought, just the number seemed a bit off.

And re: days you are tired, I found one of those where my HR data was clearly suppressed and Zone sense could show I was working much harder than it would otherwise appear (and I could tell from doing the run that I was lackluster on the day)

On a separate note: how is ZoneSense managing with quality of data, i.e. dodgy strap connection due to battery/moistness. Data filtered out from calculations?