SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.35.34 Q2

thanasis

the main 2 issues i have so far

the pause screen bug where if you start moving and it shows the message the activity has been detected you cannot handle the buttons (it’s a bug for sure and i hope the team here could forward it copying @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos )
the sudden battery instability that i thought was not a case for me but there is something strange indeed. For instance without any activity and the oHR disabled i got a 3% drop in 3 hours today! And then again yesterday then was 10% in a full day (wasn’t great but i didn’t really bother) . Previous days was like 10% for 2 days with activities involved (all of these with the same firmware)

The steps and the rest that are mentioned here so far had no impact on me. Even the open water swimming was spot on this time

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@thanasis I would not worry about the battery yet. Let it go to 0 first.

Fwinns

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos That’s an issue when you’re planning a long ride/run and you need to be sure you’ll have enough battery. There’s definitely some range anxiety associated to the “~20% displayed but really it’s 60 or 70% left”

Mff73

@Fwinns
To avoid anxiety, you can also plan to put the watch on the charger for a couple of minutes. .
Or try the common tip to let the watch discharge fully once, and only then report battery drainage. It could be a real FW issue, but before, everyone should have tried that tip.

Fwinns

@Mff73 I will let other test those theories for me, a couple of minutes is not enough when you have a ~24-30h ultra trail in two weeks
In the meantime going back to the previous firmware did the trick for me, no more battery drain, everything back to normal

false

@Fwinns I love such theories too :))
how did you install previous firmware? I wish I could do the same

Fwinns

@false there’s another topic on this forum, somebody kindly showed the procedure:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11116/firmware-downgrade-to-2-33-16-1/8?_=1720979544607

false

@Fwinns thanks! Will try on my 9pp later

Upd: it’s really nice option to know, but unfortunately for me, previous firmware is the only option. I say unfortunately because my battery was spoiled by November’s 2.30.32 update, long time ago. Of course I have little hope for bugfix, because IMO, starting from 2.30.32, suunto doesn’t care about software quality

alschmid

@Tami999 said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.35.34 Q2:
… I only miss old option to click on and fast-change, date + battery on one and on second one alt + solar for example. Now everything is static.
I hope maybe in future we will get old-way + with option which widgets/icons will be changed after tap, that would be perfect.

That seems to be a pattern: throughout the last updates for the Vertical (Solar) have they discarded in their design principles quite some requirements for customization.

Despite the hardware affording swipe and touch functionalities have customization options with widgets and screen orders in the software been removed. I find that a pity.

I see the engineers’ need to optimize for software and battery performance. However, from a user’s perspective, I find their prioritization over customization options afforded by the watch out of balance.

alschmid

@Łukasz-Szmigiel But the tapping functionality for scrolling through multiples of them is gone, no?

GiPFELKiND

@alschmid yes is gone you can only choose 1 value. No Tapping…

alschmid

@isazi Hi Alessio. It would be a nice prospect if such customization options like the “multiple compliactions” or also the “swipe left/right through widgets” were to be brought back…

I guess some irritation here in the forum comes from engaged SUUNTO users not understanding based on what grounds or principles decisions are taken re the further development of the firmware.

Changes such as the removed complications switch tapping or horizontal widget swiping might be less irritating if they were to follow a comprehensible logic.

Would you therefore mind sharing a bit more in detail on who the involved parties are exactly and how the decision process roughly looks like in “Suunto will gather feedback and act accordingly”?

alschmid

@GiPFELKiND Thanks for confirming. I thought because you can now long tap to open the widget, I might have missed something. Also, I don’t understand really why it had to go…

To have both would be great: short tapping to switch complications, long tapping to open the widget. In combination, it would partly compensate for the missing option to horizontally swipe through the widgets. A feature I’m mouring, given that the buttons and touch screen together would afford a such.

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.37.48

@alschmid yes, but you can customize them, instead of relying on arbitrarily preset complications. Which is an update, considering “personalization”, as you can personalize the watchface.

maszop

@Łukasz-Szmigiel but now it’s the same “arbitrarily preset complications" for every watchface. I hope this will change over time and there will be a few more widgets to choose from for each watchface

alschmid

Hi @Łukasz-Szmigiel, thanks for elaborating.

I must be missing something or just getting it wrong. Just to be on the same page: I’m using an SVT watch with the firmware 2.35.34. Now, after the update, I have the exact same watch face as before, or can make it look the same, except for now it’s irresponsive as compared to beforehand, where I could short tap through two different stacks of complications.

Couldn’t you also configure the complications beforehand (to a more limited extent, though), by tapping to the one you wanted shown? Although yes, the order was preset…

wurzlsepp

@alschmid said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.35.34 Q2:

Changes such as the removed complications switch tapping or horizontal widget swiping might be less irritating if they were to follow a comprehensible logic

The fact that you prefer the old UI design does not mean there is no logic to the new one. Quite simply, people preferring the old functionality are screaming the loudest. At least the vertical widget scrolling was implemented similarly in the 9Baro, similar Suunto watches, and virtually all current Garmin units. So there should be some sense to it, right?
And watch face personalization is right at its beginning … so i guess the logic there is “one step at a time”

Tomas Fejfar

Suunto Race - battery drain

before last update my Race consumed from 5.5 to 7 % of battery per day (14-18 days). Ater update (1 full cycle + complete discharging and soft restart) it takes 11 % of battery per day (9 days). No changes of settings, no changes of my behavior. Any ideas?

false

@Tomas-Fejfar yet another software bug, nothing special

Todd Danielczyk

@Tomas-Fejfar Just to confirm, did you do a full drain, letting it the watch shut down and display the charge indicator?
https://forum.suunto.com/post/149042

For me, I was seeing about 7-8% drop per day until I let it drain completely and then put on the charger to 100%. as of right now, I am sitting at 3% drop after 17 hours of use after letting the battery calibrate.