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    • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
      GiPFELKiND Silver Members @ortles
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      @ortles said in uncomplete track during activity:

      The vertical does not have an explicit track back option. Why?? The red line could serve as a track back, but until now, is not reliable. Should be fixed, definitely.

      Why this is not reliable? Your recorded track is with Multiband very good to come safe Back at home, Go your route easy Back!? Otherwise you could stop follow your track, and start the track again without stoping your GPS record. Then you didnt have the red line only your blue Line…and you can track Back to your Startpoint 😃

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        Egika Platinum Member @GiPFELKiND
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        @GiPFELKiND it is not reliable, if there is a chance that the beginning of the track is not shown in the watch…

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          GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Egika
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          @Egika ah you are right. This part i read to fast. Sorry 😲if the first part from the track is missing 🙈

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            ortles Silver Members
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            @GiPFELKiND:

            You are right - the red “breadcrumb” track would be an appriopriate “track back” option! If this would be reliable, everything would be totally fine.

            The problem is just that, for some reasons, the first part of the track is oftentimes missing when going down again. I noticed this three or four times until now when ski touring (the activities were about 3-6 hours long each).

            I was wondering, if I was the only one with this problem, but this seems to be a common thing.

            If I look at the track in the app afterwards, the recorded track non the less is complete.

            So I think this is a software bug concerning the “breadcrumb” function that should be fixed!

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              Egika Platinum Member @ortles
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              @ortles correct. I reported this bug into Suunto’s bug tracking system quite a while ago.
              So this will be prioritised there.

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              • Brad_OlwinB Offline
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                @ortles I had this happen as well. Suunto knows about the bug and will fix but we do not know when.

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                  ortles Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                  @Brad_Olwin @Egika Thanks for the update!

                  That sounds like good news, if they will fix it, everything should be fine - hope this will come with the next update!

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                    I also have this problem on my Suunto Vertical, I’ve reported it more than a month ago here https://forum.suunto.com/topic/10264/initial-part-of-previous-track-disappears-on-watch but nothing has happened since. IMHO this is totally unacceptable because it’s absolutely a safety-relevant bug.

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                      @wesk2a I hear you! Happened to me this weekend during SkiMo as well. I needed to see the right trail back to my car. Suunto knows this is a bug.

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                        ortles Silver Members @wesk2a
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                        @wesk2a said in uncomplete track during activity:

                        I also have this problem on my Suunto Vertical, I’ve reported it more than a month ago here https://forum.suunto.com/topic/10264/initial-part-of-previous-track-disappears-on-watch but nothing has happened since. IMHO this is totally unacceptable because it’s absolutely a safety-relevant bug.

                        I absolutely agree with you! It‘s not a ‚nice to have‘ but a safety-relevant issue.

                        Here they are discussing about the suunto update policy:

                        https://forum.suunto.com/topic/10338/unfortunately-time-to-go-back-to-garmin/123

                        I agree that for some features it‘s not necesssary to offer updates every three to four weeks. But if the issue is relevant for safety, they should be quicker IMHO.

                        My old ambit peak 3 had no problems with that, so I was surprised that the new vertical, which is supposed to be used in an alpine environment, does not offer a reliable track back option.

                        Hope they will fix this better sooner than later…

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                            @skitouring
                            Do you know if it has been fixed on new update?

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                            Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                            Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                              @peegee
                              It seems not
                              https://forum.suunto.com/post/141156

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                                ortles Silver Members @Mff73
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                                @Mff73 said in uncomplete track during activity:

                                @peegee
                                It seems not
                                https://forum.suunto.com/post/141156

                                This is very disappointing!

                                They are working on new watch faces and other lifestyle features (wow…), but are unable to fix such a bug which concerns one of the basic functions and is obviously relevant for safety.

                                What a weak performance from suunto.

                                Are they really in the outdoor business and are they using their own products? I guess not…

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                                  @ortles
                                  obviously not a walk in the park to fix this issue.

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                                    isazi Moderator @ortles
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                                    @ortles I agree, this is something that needs to be fixed, we have reported it a while ago and also inquired recently (when getting closer to release) to know if it was fixed or not.
                                    Unfortunately, I think this requires some work that affects the inner workings of how the activity is recorded, in fact remember that only recently the watches with large memory got the capacity to record long (hundred hours) activities, so I hope to see this fixed in the Q2 release (if it comes, the future is not for us to know).

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                                      babychai Silver Members @isazi
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                                      @isazi thanks for the update. because of the safety, i hope Suunto will release new firmware update ASAP/immediately once this bug has been fixed without waiting until Q2, Q3 etc

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                                        @babychai all I can see is that fixing this bug was planned for Q1, so this update, but I guess there was not enough time.

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                                          ortles Silver Members @isazi
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                                          @isazi said in uncomplete track during activity:

                                          @babychai all I can see is that fixing this bug was planned for Q1, so this update, but I guess there was not enough time.

                                          Thanks for the insights! Good to hear they are working on it.

                                          Instead of fixing the breadcrumb line another good - or even better - solution could be to offer an explicit track back option in the navigation menue (i. e. the recorded track is taken as a new track and is just followed back - ambit peak 3 had that option).

                                          I am not a software engineer - but is it that difficult considering the fact, that the track itself is recorded correctly? The recorded data just has to be taken and followed the other way around…

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                                            ortles Silver Members @babychai
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                                            @babychai

                                            I definitely agree with you, they should do an instant update without waiting any longer when the problem is fixed.

                                            Having the possibility to follow your track back for an outdoor gps watch is like showing the correct time - this should work correctly anytime and under any circumstances.

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