Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update
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@Iggge I’ve got the newest sw version, but still I am getting absolutely ridiculous results every night. The falling asleep and waking up times are decent, but for some reason I’ve been supposedly awake for 2-3 hours every night. Which is false by the way.
It would be nice to know if it can be improved by tweaking the rest HR (I’ve seen contradicting opinions here in the forum). Or I’d like to see more detailed analysis of when does SV think I am awake? Does it confuse light sleep cycles as being awake or is there one continuos “awake” period?
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@BrunoH The sleep/awake times have settled for me now too, but curiously enough I also still notice the issue you’re describing. Awake hours are also often round numbers, 1:00, 2:00, etc. Yesterday it was 2:00, while I slept like a rock and my HR was steady at the mid-forties throughout, no spikes.
Comms on resting HR rate seem contradicting, but Suunto customer service once instructed me to set the minimum HR at the daytime rest rate, and adjust it down as/if needed. In addition, they mentioned it’s important to ensure the accelerometer has solid data to calibrate on, as movement too is used for calculating sleep data. The accelerometer is (at least in part) calibrated through walking/running activities with GPS on. It might be that part of the equation is messing with the awake time, but it’s indeed guesswork for us
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@AnonVerticalOwner hey I have some really good Infos about the physiology from our sleep. If you understand how exactly the Phases are perhaps you can find Out if the Suunto Algorithmus is working good or bad. Awake Times during our sleep is normal… Read it here
https://www.resmed-healthcare.de/patienten/die-schlafphasen-des-menschen
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For my part, I am having difficulty detecting naps on my vertical. I had the breed before going vertical and had no problems with the breed. Naps were well detected and quantified.
The vertical does not detect naps at all although sleep seems to me to be well monitored (bed/wake up times in accordance with reality) I entered the same physiological data in the race and in the vertical. I don’t understand anything. -
@Fizzgig
Vertical does not track naps.
it’s the Race only that tracks naps -
the vertical having received the race update, I was convinced that the nap detection was activated.
If it’s not, I don’t have any problem
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@Fizzgig as @freeheeler said Vertical and S9PP do not support naps detection. As of today, only the Race support that. We will see if something changes in 2024, as you know the current algorithm is the first production ready sleep tracking algorithm from Suunto itself.
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@isazi I hope this will soon change for SV
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Last 14 days my Vertical is showing the same data as before the update. According to my Vertical I do sleep about 4 hours/night.
That is clearly wrong and should as be at least 6 hours.
It keep showing that every night I have about 2-4 hours awake time and show wrong wake up time. -
@Iggge said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:
howing the same data as before the update. According to my Vertical I do sleep about 4 hours/night.
That is clearly wrong and should as be at least 6 hours.
It keep showing that every night I have about 2-4 hours awake time and show wrong wakI had been experiencing exactly the same symptoms since the sw update and I had already given up on the sleep tracking feature. But then… the dark winter time and dry freezing air made my psoriasis really flare and the skin irritation forced me to move the watch to my right wrist. It’s been two nights now and both were flawlessly tracked. Zero minutes spent awake and the time of falling asleep and waking up are as good as they can get. Interesting!
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This is just getting worse by the day. This is how over 7 h looks like. For two days ago 7 hours was shown as 2.
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@Iggge have you tried another band? I had better sleep tracking with any Suunto (besides the Race) when using elastic Nylonbands which could be adjusted much better and also wearing those - even when worn tightly - was much more comfortable. You might also try different positions on either arm (seems to make quite a difference for some people).
I don’t know how the new algorithm for the Vertical works and if HR is used in the sleep calculations, but for me it always worked best, when setting my RHR in the watch about 8 to 10 points above my lowest average HR. -
@ChrisA I have not. Do you have anything you recommend?
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@Iggge I had/have different ones. One is from Yooside, the other one a cheaper one by Vodtian. I ordered them from Amazon. I also recall, that some people liked the really good Coros Nylonbands which comes with the Apex Pro 2. You just have to make sure it’s at least a bit elastic and a has a Velcro for fastening.
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Woke up at 4:55 this morning but the watch shows 7:30…
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@Frederick-Rochette Have you set the good range in sleep tracking parameter?
Watch: Suunto vertical solar
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@ChrisA Thanks! I will buy a new band soon.
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@Antoine yes it’s 7:30 but exceptionally woke up at 4:55 and no activity was detected…
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My Vertical have big problems with sleep analysis. This is last two nights…
