Suunto app Forum Suunto Community Forum
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Suunto Vertical
    25 Posts 12 Posters 1.3k Views 12 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • A Offline
      altcmd Silver Members @Egika
      last edited by

      @Egika he doesn’t like his Garmin either 😄

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
      • EzioAuditoreE Offline
        EzioAuditore Gold Members @Andrew_
        last edited by EzioAuditore

        @Andrewx01 In my experience Garmin always ‘under-counts’. I’ve run with 3 watches simultanuosly (Suunto, Garmin and Apple) and the Suunto - Apple were basically showing the same distance (Even I was wondering how is that possible after HM). The problem with Garmin’s when you enter the trails (so under trees it uses some weird ‘smoothing’ and also their SatIQ kicks in). So to compare the best Suunto to Garmin is if you set the Garmin not to Auto in the Sattelite mode but to Best / 1s - even after this it undercounts but not by much roughly 200m in a HM).
        So on a well measured track of 10.89km Suunto always gave me: 10.90 - 11km and Garmin 8.9km to 10.2 (of course this was with the terrible 6X, I’ve tried Forerruner 965 and the results are much better at: 10.75 to 10.90.

        Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
        Suunto Wing

        Brad_OlwinB 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
        • zhang965Z Offline
          zhang965 @Egika
          last edited by

          @Egika said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

          @zhang965 said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

          Brad_Olwin said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

          Comparing to an Epix2Pro about one year ago they were more or less identical for distance.

          Wow, comparing epix 2 pro about one year ago.

          It looks like we found why this person’s s9p has wrist power. Loool

          I don’t know if you are having any personal issues, but what added value does your comment bring to this thread?

          To let you add your added value in this post, darling

          Winners Wear Winners

          EzioAuditoreE 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote -9
          • EzioAuditoreE Offline
            EzioAuditore Gold Members @zhang965
            last edited by

            @zhang965 I don’t care about added values. Its a forum after all not a scientific publishing platform 🙂

            Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
            Suunto Wing

            zhang965Z 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • zhang965Z Offline
              zhang965 @EzioAuditore
              last edited by

              @Hristijan-Petreski said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

              @zhang965 I don’t care about added values. Its a forum after all not a scientific publishing platform 🙂

              It’s why you are not Suunto’s target audience.

              Winners Wear Winners

              A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote -2
              • A Offline
                altcmd Silver Members @zhang965
                last edited by

                @zhang965 is this your idea of entertainment? thought you found greener pastured on Garmin - how is the Garmin forum?

                zhang965Z 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @EzioAuditore
                  last edited by

                  @Hristijan-Petreski Interesting as my AWUltra is often less distance than the Vertical and I think (I cannot be fully certain, maybe I should test the loop I have used a wheel to measure distance) the Ultra is measuring short.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

                  EzioAuditoreE 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • zhang965Z Offline
                    zhang965 @altcmd
                    last edited by

                    @altcmd said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

                    @zhang965 is this your idea of entertainment? thought you found greener pastured on Garmin - how is the Garmin forum?

                    Garmin’s forum is boring, less entertainment then Suunto community forum.

                    Winners Wear Winners

                    tazidenT 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • tazidenT Offline
                      taziden Gold Members @zhang965
                      last edited by

                      @zhang965 said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

                      Garmin’s forum is boring, less entertainment then Suunto community forum.

                      So you’ve already been banned over there, aren’t you luv.

                      S9PP

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • leafs93L Offline
                        leafs93 Bronze Member @Andrew_
                        last edited by

                        @Andrewx01 I faced the exact same issue. I have a Garmin 965, COROS apex 2 pro, Apple Watch 8 and I do wear my vertical together with the rest of my watches just to test out the distances. The distance on my Vertical will invariably be clocked at longer distance , ie for a 10km run , it will be 200m longer for my vertical compared to Garmin 965 and COROS apex 2 pro.

                        When I use software to zoom in to the tracks, I can then understand where the extra distance came from as vertical tracks are more often zig Zac compared to the rest and I figured that must have been the reason. However, it seems vertical has the most accurate distance count by the experts. So I guess it should be.

                        zhang965Z 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • zhang965Z Offline
                          zhang965 @leafs93
                          last edited by

                          @leafs93 said in SV clocking a 7.9mi loop at 8.15mi. Is this the general margin of error with Suunto?:

                          @Andrewx01 I faced the exact same issue. I have a Garmin 965, COROS apex 2 pro, Apple Watch 8 and I do wear my vertical together with the rest of my watches just to test out the distances. The distance on my Vertical will invariably be clocked at longer distance , ie for a 10km run , it will be 200m longer for my vertical compared to Garmin 965 and COROS apex 2 pro.

                          When I use software to zoom in to the tracks, I can then understand where the extra distance came from as vertical tracks are more often zig Zac compared to the rest and I figured that must have been the reason. However, it seems vertical has the most accurate distance count by the experts. So I guess it should be.

                          My vertical counts less distance when I run a little bit fast,; if I walk, it gives almost the same distance as epix2pro.

                          I saw Suunto’s tester was running at 16mins/km to proof the good gps tracker, sadly I cannot keep running in such a pace.

                          Have you tried run slower to see your vertical gps performance?

                          Winners Wear Winners

                          leafs93L 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                          • Mouse CruiserM Offline
                            Mouse Cruiser Bronze Member @Andrew_
                            last edited by Mouse Cruiser

                            @Andrewx01 IMHO the matter is quite simple. For example, if you take a perfectly flat road and measure a distance of 1 mile, a watch that measures the GPS location every second will make a tiny error in each measurement. If you run a mile in 5 minutes, that’s at least 300 locations and 300 small misses. The algorithm (and each watch manufacturer has different algoritm) compensates these small errors, of course, but in the end there is still a deviation from the measurement in a straight line and the calculation of the path after 300 locations. In your case the error is around 3 %, which could be smaller, but it could also be larger😕

                            Suunto Vertical
                            Suunto 9 Baro
                            Suunto Spartan
                            Suunto Ambit3 peak

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                              EzioAuditore Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
                              last edited by

                              @Brad_Olwin Yes usually my AW gives me less distance too from cold start (their not so clever implementation to start the activity within 3 sec might be the case. So what I usually do is start an activity stop it after 5-10 sec - delete it and start again so the GPS lock should be much better).

                              Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                              Suunto Wing

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                              • leafs93L Offline
                                leafs93 Bronze Member @zhang965
                                last edited by

                                @zhang965 walking will definitely get more distance as the gps track will not be smooth and is more zig Zac.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • First post
                                  Last post

                                Suunto Terms | Privacy Policy