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    Water temperature ... how fast does it show the correct temperature

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      Gosem Bronze Member
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      I am interested if someone could test this, or have experience with it.

      When I go for swimming or snorkeling, how fast will the vertical display/track the correct water temperature.

      The Garmin Fenix 7 takes easily at least 2-3 minutes. The Apple Watch ultra because of the temperature sensor in the glas only needs 20-30 seconds.

      Does anyone know how long the vertical needs.

      I like often to swim or to go into cold water and would also like to track the water temperature, but sometimes 2-3 minutes is too long šŸ˜‰ … especially if the water only have 3-4 degrees.

      Many thanks, Martin

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        BrunoH Gold Members @Gosem
        last edited by BrunoH

        @Gosem I could present some calculation examples based on the thermodynamics laws, but the fact is that wearing the watch on a 37 celsius wrist will probably never give correct values. Unless they have finally somehow isolated the temperature component…

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        Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
        Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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          Gosem Bronze Member @BrunoH
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          @BrunoH
          that’s what they did with the Apple Watch Ultra …

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            Egika Platinum Member @Gosem
            last edited by Egika

            @Gosem It is easy to read from the activity log.
            Adjusting the reading to the actual water temperature always follows an e-function. you should be able to derive it from the graph.
            Short version: it takes approx 3mins for the temp change in my example here:
            IMG_5648.png

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              wotus Bronze Member @Gosem
              last edited by wotus

              @Gosem The Suunto 9 and Suunto 9peak needs about 55 seconds for the first temperature data point and 1 minute for every following, with actual firmware 2.23.20. Screenshot_20230605-181007_Suunto.png

              But in the past with previous firmware it needs 10s for the first reading followed by nearly continuous measurement with changes of few seconds.

              It is not the sensor that limits but the software.

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                BrunoH Gold Members @wotus
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                @wotus I think the sensor is affected by body temperature. I had S9B for a couple of years and it never showed me believable temperatures…

                Compasses: M-311, A-10, SK-7
                Diving: Finnlight Navy 90, Vyper
                Sports: Metron, S7, S9B and Vertical

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                  Egika Platinum Member @BrunoH
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                  @BrunoH said in Water temperature ... how fast does it show the correct temperature:

                  @wotus I think the sensor is affected by body temperature. I had S9B for a couple of years and it never showed me believable temperatures…

                  this is only the case when out of the water. If the watch is inside the water, there is no effect from the body left.

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                  Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                    Egika Platinum Member @wotus
                    last edited by

                    @wotus question was about the Suunto Vertical.

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                    Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                      wotus Bronze Member @Egika
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                      @Egika It was only meant to be a comparison. Why should SV be worse in terms of temperature measurement than S9 or even Garmin F7? And such things can change with firmware updates.

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                        Gosem Bronze Member @Egika
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                        @Egika Thanks šŸ™‚

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                          Gosem Bronze Member @wotus
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                          @wotus Thanks šŸ™‚

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                            Ars Vitae Bronze Member @wotus
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                            @wotus I don’t think so. If the sensor is misplaced a firmware update will not help.

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                              Efejota Bronze Member
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                              A quick question.

                              I remember in the previous firmware of the S9P (Pro as well?) that checking water temperature was quite easy and fast . The screen for altitude and temperature (if I recall it correctly) quickly showed the water temperature when the watch was inmersed. Now, temperature is shown together with altitude and pressure. However, when inmersing it takes much more to show the temperature.

                              In the current version of the manual, water temperature is only referenced under the ā€œWeatherā€ Suunto+ app (which requires some kind of training). Is it intended to work that way and, if it were the case, is there any reason for the change in the altitude/temperature screen?

                              My user case was yesterday, trying to check the temperature of the water in a mountain river with my S9PP before putting half of my body inside. The pain in my fingers trying to have a reading was enough hint for deciding before the real temperature was reached in the watch 😊 .

                              J

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                                Piotr Grygiel
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                                In my opinion 5-6 minutes.signal-2024-03-26-075954_002.png

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                                  Efejota Bronze Member @Piotr Grygiel
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                                  @Piotr-Grygiel Much better with the preivous software, TBH…

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