BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

cosme.costa

@Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

@yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

From what I have read in the Spanish Forum, the SR needs to be this way because the algorithm used is from a external company and once you have the first values then you can use the externar HR monitor to keep them. Its said that with next update you will be able to get the values with an external monitor.

SV uses Suunto’s algorithm and gives the values with external monitors.

pavel.samokha

@gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

S+ app is not required

wmichi

@cosme-costa Thanks for this info! Wow, that’s bad. There are quite a few people who have problems with accurate WHR. For me it’s unusable during exercise (I am simply not compatible with this technology), so that this algorithm would be a random number generator. I hope Suunto can fix this soon.

There should really be an information about this on the website: “You only get LTHR and race prediction times if WHR is used”. In my country there is something called consumer rights. As far as I know, if a product doesn’t work as advertised, consumers can request their money back (Suunto had already months to fix this), even after months of use. So maybe it would be a good idea to add this info for legal reasons?

MiniForklift

Sorry, tried to delete my post as it’s not relevant but I don’t have permission to do so. As you were…

@wmichi With all due respect, but if this is true it is quite puzzling that no one here has said it!

pavel.samokha

The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

MiniForklift

@pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

I know you’re referring to the Race and I have the Vertical, but FWIW I can see the race predictions on my watch and I don’t use HR of any sort

pavel.samokha

@MiniForklift yes, it’s related only to Suunto Race

gilou

@pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

@gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

S+ app is not required

@pavel-samokha merci pour tes conseils. j’ai enfin réussi a avoir mes données de course ainsi que le seuil lactique en ajoutant l’application S+ "HR zones Duration " Alors même si cet ajout n’est pas requis pour avoir ces valeurs, cela a du bien aider. J’avais deja une dizaine d’activités post mise a jour avant cette dernière. J’espère que cela pourra aider ceux qui étaient dans le même cas que moi.

Mi_chael

After 3 or 4 run after the update. My race show the run prediction and the lactate threshold.

I run 10 minutes or more on z2 and 10 minutes or more on z3.

And i use a Polar H10.

Thanks Suunto !

Geoffwilli

I’ve had my race since it launched and still no run prediction or threshold data. Run 5 times a week around 100k all sorts of activities but have never had anything in these fields.

Am I doing something wrong!?

wmichi

@Geoffwilli It only works if you use the internal OHR, not with external sensors.

Geoffwilli

@wmichi
Yeah that’s what I’ve been using. Frustrating as it seems a common issue.

@Geoffwilli said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

Yeah that’s what I’ve been using. Frustrating as it seems a common issue.

you only need 3 whr workouts to unlock it…

Mi_chael

For me and my Suunto Race,

Works after 3 run with a Polar H10.

But with 10 minutes in zone 2 and 10 minutes in zone 3.

After that i can see my run prediction and lactate threshold.

Geoffwilli

@cjanevate I’ve probably done about 300 and still nothing

Geoffwilli

@Mi_chael I’ve completed all sorts of different running sessions and have done sessions within those zones for longer than the 10min you mentioned. As someone previously noted, it would be useful if Suunto outlined what was required and then it would be clear if there is an error with the software.

Mi_chael

@Geoffwilli

You’re right. It’s not clear at all.

But for sure. I run with a Polar H10 heart rate strap.

Ryan Mullins

I’ve seen a few suggestions that you need to use wrist heart rate to get LT and Race Predictions

I tried a run with just wrist HR and it was so bad to start that I wouldn’t trust the predictions it might come up with and didn’t try more runs.

Any word on when this might be resolved? Would the calculations work using a Suunto Smart Belt?

Marius Jacobsen Eggerud

@Ryan-Mullins As far as I know this will be solved in the next major update. Solved means that it will make predictions even if you use an external HR unit.