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    BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
      Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
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      @pavel-samokha

      Thx for the Infos.
      Did the 3 Runs with more then 10min Zone 2 , still no values.
      Do the 10min or more Zone 2 have to be 10 min continious Zone 2 in a run or total in the run? And do i have to run the 3 Runs on consecutive days?

      And why should it make a differente between optical hr from Watch and hr belt for getting values? And then the Values Maybe wrong because of Bad readings from the optical hr in cold weather.

      And i am a Little Bit confused, because the Suunto Support Told ne in january that i have to run Zone 3 for 10min plus in 3 Runs.

      Which Logs should i send ?

      t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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        pavel.samokha @Sebastian Wagner 0
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        @Sebastian-Wagner-0 https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/suunto-app/how-to-send-diagnostic-logs-on-suunto-app-for-ios/ (on Android open Profile -> Settins -> Scroll to bottom)

        Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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        • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
          Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
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          @pavel-samokha

          Watch is connected, but i can Not find the Option to send Logs.

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          t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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            freeheeler @Sebastian Wagner 0
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            @Sebastian-Wagner-0
            settings -> about app
            the logs function has been moved to keep us agile and dynamic 😉

            living sideways

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            • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
              Sebastian Wagner 0 @freeheeler
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              @freeheeler
              Thx 👍

              I Hope Suunto can See something in my data, why i can Not get Running estimate and Lactate threshold values.

              t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                landlord4714 @Sebastian Wagner 0
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                Sent logs as well for troubleshooting.

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                  Christoph_W
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                  For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

                  I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

                  On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

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                    efbill @Christoph_W
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                    @Christoph_W said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                    For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

                    I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

                    On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

                    Unfortunately the same thing happens to me. I also tried everything I read on the forum but nothing helped.

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                      yohan
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                      It seems it’s only working with Watch Heartrate Sensor, I’ll try before the end of this month, but I got a marathon next sunday, so I’ll keep my Verity Sense until I cross this finish line.

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                        Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @yohan
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                        @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

                        Suunto Ambit 3
                        Suunto Spartan Ultra
                        Suunto Race Ti

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                          gilou @pavel.samokha
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                          @pavel-samokha est-il conseillĂ© de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activitĂ©s depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complĂ©ment S+

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                            cosme.costa @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
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                            @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                            @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

                            From what I have read in the Spanish Forum, the SR needs to be this way because the algorithm used is from a external company and once you have the first values then you can use the externar HR monitor to keep them. Its said that with next update you will be able to get the values with an external monitor.

                            SV uses Suunto’s algorithm and gives the values with external monitors.

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                              pavel.samokha @gilou
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                              @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                              est-il conseillĂ© de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activitĂ©s depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complĂ©ment S+

                              S+ app is not required

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                                wmichi @cosme.costa
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                                @cosme-costa Thanks for this info! Wow, that’s bad. There are quite a few people who have problems with accurate WHR. For me it’s unusable during exercise (I am simply not compatible with this technology), so that this algorithm would be a random number generator. I hope Suunto can fix this soon.

                                There should really be an information about this on the website: “You only get LTHR and race prediction times if WHR is used”. In my country there is something called consumer rights. As far as I know, if a product doesn’t work as advertised, consumers can request their money back (Suunto had already months to fix this), even after months of use. So maybe it would be a good idea to add this info for legal reasons?

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                                  MiniForklift Platinum Member @wmichi
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                                  Sorry, tried to delete my post as it’s not relevant but I don’t have permission to do so. As you were


                                  SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                    A Former User @wmichi
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                                    @wmichi With all due respect, but if this is true it is quite puzzling that no one here has said it!

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                                    • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                                      pavel.samokha
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                                      The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

                                      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                        MiniForklift Platinum Member @pavel.samokha
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                                        @pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                        The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

                                        I know you’re referring to the Race and I have the Vertical, but FWIW I can see the race predictions on my watch and I don’t use HR of any sort

                                        SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                          pavel.samokha @MiniForklift
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                                          @MiniForklift yes, it’s related only to Suunto Race

                                          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                            gilou @pavel.samokha
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                                            @pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                            @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                            est-il conseillĂ© de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activitĂ©s depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complĂ©ment S+

                                            S+ app is not required

                                            @pavel-samokha merci pour tes conseils. j’ai enfin rĂ©ussi a avoir mes donnĂ©es de course ainsi que le seuil lactique en ajoutant l’application S+ "HR zones Duration " Alors mĂȘme si cet ajout n’est pas requis pour avoir ces valeurs, cela a du bien aider. J’avais deja une dizaine d’activitĂ©s post mise a jour avant cette derniĂšre. J’espĂšre que cela pourra aider ceux qui Ă©taient dans le mĂȘme cas que moi.

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