BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

Sebastian Wagner 0

Thx for the Infos.
Did the 3 Runs with more then 10min Zone 2 , still no values.
Do the 10min or more Zone 2 have to be 10 min continious Zone 2 in a run or total in the run? And do i have to run the 3 Runs on consecutive days?

And why should it make a differente between optical hr from Watch and hr belt for getting values? And then the Values Maybe wrong because of Bad readings from the optical hr in cold weather.

And i am a Little Bit confused, because the Suunto Support Told ne in january that i have to run Zone 3 for 10min plus in 3 Runs.

Which Logs should i send ?

pavel.samokha

@Sebastian-Wagner-0 https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/suunto-app/how-to-send-diagnostic-logs-on-suunto-app-for-ios/ (on Android open Profile -> Settins -> Scroll to bottom)

Sebastian Wagner 0

@pavel-samokha

Watch is connected, but i can Not find the Option to send Logs.

freeheeler

@Sebastian-Wagner-0
settings -> about app
the logs function has been moved to keep us agile and dynamic

Sebastian Wagner 0

@freeheeler
Thx

I Hope Suunto can See something in my data, why i can Not get Running estimate and Lactate threshold values.

landlord4714

Sent logs as well for troubleshooting.

Christoph_W

For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

efbill

@Christoph_W said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

Unfortunately the same thing happens to me. I also tried everything I read on the forum but nothing helped.

yohan

It seems it’s only working with Watch Heartrate Sensor, I’ll try before the end of this month, but I got a marathon next sunday, so I’ll keep my Verity Sense until I cross this finish line.

Marius Jacobsen Eggerud

@yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

gilou

@pavel-samokha est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

cosme.costa

@Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

@yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

From what I have read in the Spanish Forum, the SR needs to be this way because the algorithm used is from a external company and once you have the first values then you can use the externar HR monitor to keep them. Its said that with next update you will be able to get the values with an external monitor.

SV uses Suunto’s algorithm and gives the values with external monitors.

pavel.samokha

@gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

S+ app is not required

wmichi

@cosme-costa Thanks for this info! Wow, that’s bad. There are quite a few people who have problems with accurate WHR. For me it’s unusable during exercise (I am simply not compatible with this technology), so that this algorithm would be a random number generator. I hope Suunto can fix this soon.

There should really be an information about this on the website: “You only get LTHR and race prediction times if WHR is used”. In my country there is something called consumer rights. As far as I know, if a product doesn’t work as advertised, consumers can request their money back (Suunto had already months to fix this), even after months of use. So maybe it would be a good idea to add this info for legal reasons?

MiniForklift

Sorry, tried to delete my post as it’s not relevant but I don’t have permission to do so. As you were…

@wmichi With all due respect, but if this is true it is quite puzzling that no one here has said it!

pavel.samokha

The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

MiniForklift

@pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

I know you’re referring to the Race and I have the Vertical, but FWIW I can see the race predictions on my watch and I don’t use HR of any sort

pavel.samokha

@MiniForklift yes, it’s related only to Suunto Race

gilou

@pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

@gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

S+ app is not required

@pavel-samokha merci pour tes conseils. j’ai enfin réussi a avoir mes données de course ainsi que le seuil lactique en ajoutant l’application S+ "HR zones Duration " Alors même si cet ajout n’est pas requis pour avoir ces valeurs, cela a du bien aider. J’avais deja une dizaine d’activités post mise a jour avant cette dernière. J’espère que cela pourra aider ceux qui étaient dans le même cas que moi.