How many runs are needed for one outdoor run?

[BrunoH]

I am starting to doubt myself. Below the progress widget’s main screen it says: “Record at least 1 outdoor run to get insights”.

I’ve completed two outdoor runs after factory reset. Not very ultra, but at 37 and 21 minutes these lunchtime break runs were longer than the minimum 15 mins stated in the updated SV user manual. I am using Suunto Movesense belt and GPS is on. HR readings are believable. No intervals, no structured anything, no guides, no apps. Just a simple Running (Basic) activity. Is there some other requirement that I’ve missed??? In another thread two users said it took them closer to ten runs to get VO2max.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@BrunoH it might not have the correct data ie for example it was a run with lots of ups and downs and so on

[BrunoH]

Thank you @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos. It was straight road with hardly any uphills or downhills (total ascent/descent some 3 meters), but I had lots of variation in my HR. With my pitiful fitness it doesn’t take a lot to go to zones 4 and 5. I tried to take it easier and in the example below I was running and walking in order to keep my HR in zones 2-3.

Would that variation explain it? Should I record a walking activity with more stable HR?

[ChrisA]

@BrunoH should work… running or walking for at least 15 minutes. Someone wrote, it should be at last 20 Minutes at 70% of your max HR (what would make your workout a bit too short), but I could not find it in the manuals of Suunto 🧐

[BrunoH]

@ChrisA
I received today detailed requirements from the support.

• Walk and run modes are supported
• GPS and HR tracking must be uninterrupted and perfect quality
• HR must remain at least 8 minutes in zone 3 or higher.
• GPS quality requirement is especially important if there are no prior measurements (this applies to my case now that I did the hard reset)

Good work support! I’d like to see all these little things explained in the user manual or FAQ. In-depth explanations would make support’s life easier.

I guess I can finally make it now. Because of my awful fitness I have probably failed the 8 mins rule, my HR hasn’t been up there continuously. My HR goes up to zone 5 in less than 5 mins and it is hard to keep going in Z5 that long. (Yes, there are wrecks like me in here )

[ChrisA]

@BrunoH said in How many runs are needed for one outdoor run?:

My HR goes up to zone 5 in less than 5 mins and it is hard to keep going in Z5 that long. (Yes, there are wrecks like me in here )

Since they don’t state, that you must have a constant pace, I would set a zone 3 alarm before running, start running slowly and as soon as I would reach the upper zone 3 limit (or the medium zone 4 - if that‘s still bearable) I would walk until I fall back to the middle of zone 3 and then start running again. In zhat way you should be able to constantly stay in zone 3 for those 8 minutes