What do you expect from the next update?

Todd Danielczyk

@Mountain @cosme-costa that would be the same for me.

Mountain

@cosme-costa I said I was joking because I didn’t want the Garmin cult fanboys to come and hassle me. I am scared

maszop

@Mountain But it must be admitted in all fairness that despite the complexity of Garmin’s software and the number of models on the market, its errors do not look as bad as in the case of the very primitive Suunto software, where very serious problems appear with every update.

It’s a bit like comparing the software of an Android smartphone with some Nokia 3310. Sad but true.

Mountain

@maszop I’m sorry, but I completely disagree with this statement. I don’t want to wear my watch at night. I don’t want to wear it 24/7. I also don’t want to measure every aspect of my existence just so Garmin can spit out tons of graphs to tell me whether I’m doing well or if I’m sick. I really don’t appreciate this intrusion into my privacy. I don’t track my sleep, I don’t track HRV, I don’t care about it at all, and my Suunto is an incredible, precise tool that leaves me alone, allowing me to use it guilt-free, just for the pleasure of being in nature with metrics of unparalleled accuracy. Add to that the latest ZoneSense algorithm, which is now my main tool when I train, and Garmin becomes obsolete. Now, I respect everyone’s opinion, but in my case, I appreciate every day the work done by the Suunto teams to improve the technology that supports me in the sports I love.

Likarnik

@Mountain yeah, but you didn’t understand above post. We don’t need all that stuff, but if you get 10 bugs out of 50 features it looks bad compare to 10 bugs out of 500 features regardless of usability of those features.

cosme.costa

@maszop said in What do you expect from the next update?:

@Mountain But it must be admitted in all fairness that despite the complexity of Garmin’s software, its errors do not look as bad as in the case of the very primitive Suunto software, where very serious problems appear with every update.

It’s a bit like comparing the software of an Android smartphone with some Nokia 3310. Sad but true.

How bad Suunto’s errors look or which are the serious errors? I mean, I’m still recording all my runs, rides and strength sessions, with all the accuracy and metrics. I still can use maps and follow routes.

That you can’t track your sleep is bad (solved with a soft reset from time to time) but that you can’t start a GPS activity and then you enter in a boot loop, what it is? An do not sell that Garmin solved it quickly because the if they didn’t solve it quickly the watch becomes a brick.

cosme.costa

@Likarnik Which are these 450 features that “the other” have over Suunto? And hey, I have had Garmin and now I have Coros (both bike computers) so I can compare or check.

Anyway, as others say, to many un-useful features in my opinion, that lot of times stops us from advancing or enjoy our hobbies.

Mountain

@Likarnik Not tracking everything makes my watch almost bug-free. Besides, bugs are part of tech products, Garmin included, with pages of forums detailing unresolved bugs that remain on watches, which become obsolete every two years to push people to overconsume. Anyway, I’ll stop here as I’ve made my point: not a huge fan of Garmin, to say the least.

maszop

@Mountain That’s right, I’ve been using Suunto for many years for this reason (Ambit/Traverse times) and I don’t regret it, but objectively speaking, Suunto has much simpler software and there are plenty of serious bugs during updates.

maszop

@cosme-costa The last few updates - inability to sync with phone, battery drain, no WiFi connection, OHR turning off, to name a few - each of them could be called a serious bug.

Dan Cantir

I’m a new, happy owner of the Suunto Vertical (used Suunto 9 Peak Pro and Garmin Forerunner 255 before). The two most important things I’d like to see are:

An “exercise only” mode for the raise-to-wake feature (my Suunto 9 Peak Pro had this, but it was removed ).
Perfectly centered hour and minute text when the watch is inactive on most of the watch faces. The watch faces are very good, but some of them look “broken” when seconds disappear.

Kosta

In new update want sync weather via WiFi - it is very sad see every morning empty weather info and open app just for gathering this data
Will be great, if also trainings will sync though WiFi, not only BLE connection.

maszop

@Kosta I suspect that the active WiFi module is much more power-consuming and that is why Bluetooth is always used.

cosme.costa

@maszop said in What do you expect from the next update?:

inability to sync with phone

Not true, at least on Android

battery drain

Not true, at least on the SV

no WiFi connection

Acknowledge by Suunto and if you read some post solved in the future posts. In my case I haven’t had problems, I been able to add a wifi net and download maps.

OHR turning off

Acknowledge by Suunto, and seems that is not easy to solve. they have given a solution (in my opinion they should have given it sooner)

Do not get me wrong, I would like to to have my Suunto bug free, but sometimes this happens. They know about it and they say that they are working on it, in my experience I have to believe them will solve it.

cosme.costa

@Dan-Cantir said in What do you expect from the next update?:

I’m a new, happy owner of the Suunto Vertical (used Suunto 9 Peak Pro and Garmin Forerunner 255 before). The two most important things I’d like to see are:

An “exercise only” mode for the raise-to-wake feature (my Suunto 9 Peak Pro had this, but it was removed ).

Yes please!!! I’ve asking for this , here and in the Spanish forum.

I would also like to see that when you use the stopwatch and use the main screen after 30seconds, when the screen autoblocks, that the stopwatch is still visible.

sorinus

@cosme-costa said in What do you expect from the next update?:

An “exercise only” mode for the raise-to-wake feature (my Suunto 9 Peak Pro had this, but it was removed ).

Yes please!!! I’ve asking for this , here and in the Spanish forum.

I would also like to see that when you use the stopwatch and use the main screen after 30seconds, when the screen autoblocks, that the stopwatch is still visible.

Oh dear, these are also my 2 little things that I would love to be fixed.

maszop

@cosme-costa said in What do you expect from the next update?:

@maszop said in What do you expect from the next update?:

inability to sync with phone

Not true, at least on Android

https://forum.suunto.com/post/143253

battery drain

Not true, at least on the SV

The problem is only partially solved. A lot of users (including me SV) still have this problem with battery drain.

I don’t want to comment on the rest because someone here is probably out of touch with reality. Just look even here on the forum at the problems with the last few updates.

Moreno 1

@moreno said in What do you expect from the next update?:

Hi everyone ,
here’s my whishlist for coming upgrades :

Map :

When ruler is on, it would be nice to also have an option for :
a) azimouth (degrees from the ruler line tonorth);
b) coordinates (in current format) of the actual point marked from cursor;
c) Optionally save theese coordinates in a waypoint;

Add more zoom out (possibly to 10 km and more) ;

Backlight and flashlight :

Option to a “Military mode” with red backlight that don’t degrade the night vision .

Notifications :

Double the available answers;

Allow to combine/concatenate multiple answers before sending (intronucing a “commit” on the answers list) .

Watch faces :

As someone said, not more but just better;

General use :

A fast key (a shortcut) to rapidely mark a waypoint (MOB-key) .

Timer/stop watch :

A graphic circle that fill or emty as time go .

Hi, i’ve just discovered, almost after a year, that all features i asked for at point 1) of my wish list are been sostantially implemented :
I don’t know in what updated they were introducted 'cause i can’t find any mention in change log or even user manual (both italian and english) .
Anyway, if you, like me dind’nt notice , it is now possible mark a waypoint directly from map when the ruler is shown . Scrolling the menu it shows some new (at least for me) option :

marking / deleting a ruler-point. On my watch seems there are up to 10 ruler-point marcable.
reading on screen the total distance of the ruler-point’s route .
saving as a poi the last end of ruler (and then , indirectly, getting bearing of it using bearing navigation).

I’m really sorry if all you yet were aware of this. Hope not been boring (i just found a post on race’s section of this forum whitout any reply, so certanly i’m not really the only user that noted that…)

GiPFELKiND

@cosme-costa yes suunto know about the Problem. Thats right… But suunto also know about the missing contour lines in the bavarian alps. Over 500m zoomlevel. More than 16 month. Until today No solution. How long we have to wait?! How long YOU will wait? Let it be to make new Firmware --> correct the old one first and all known bugs… But if the 3.xxxxxx Firmware from the Suunto ow234 RUN will come we will have more bugs again