Navigation - turn notififactions

pmossy

I have now run often and for a long time with the watch. The navigation instructions are not usable in my opinion and very confusing. Too bad actually - because the clock otherwise does what I need.
Please bring the instructions finally in a logical order and does not show me at the point of change of direction already the next instruction. I would expect:

about 100m before the turn an instruction about change of direction
approx. 10 m before the turn a hint.
next instruction only AFTER completion of the previous change of direction.

altcmd

@pmossy the person who built the logic for navigation has clearly never used it or navigated with it. Seems like a very poorly built logic which has not been addressed for years.

duffman19

Just discovered this problem as well. Perhaps it’s been discussed elsewhere, but, yes, the navigation prompts are a bit confusing. @pmossy described how it should function: initial prompt before turn, second prompt at or just before turn, and a “next turn” prompt some time after completing the turn.

The fact that the next turn prompt displays before completing the current turn is just poor design. My guess is that the algorithm is set to prompt the next turn when within a certain distance of the current turn (seems to be ~10m), but doesn’t have the ability to discern whether you are located in front of or past the current turn POI relative to your direction of travel. I would guess this could be an easy fix since the watch presumably already knows your direction of travel, but I really don’t know.

An even simpler fix would be to have the next turn prompt always show at a set distance, such as .5km. If the next turn is less than this distance, then it simply won’t show and you’d only receive the 100m turn prompt.

Also, is it just me or are the turn notifications displayed for too short of a time? It seems to be about 4-5 seconds. If your watch is under a jacket or long sleeves and you’ve got gloves on, that’s certainly not enough time to dig under everything and view the prompt. 8-10 seconds would be preferred.

Jacobus

@pmossy I always have turn by turn turned off, I usually just run the route by briefly looking at my watch. Sometimes I start the same route with Komoot on my phone and then have voice prompts through my bone conduction headphones, which works quite handy in practice.

isazi

Agree, TbT prompts are wrongly timed and confusing, and this must change.

sky-runner

@pmossy The right solution would be to always display the next turn with the remaining distance at the bottom of the map (with or without the notifications). That’s what Garmin does, and that work really well.

Maryn

@sky-runner Very good idea

altcmd

@Jacobus turning off TbT is not a solution even if that’s what most do.

Antoine Lancrenon

@altcmd said in Navigation - turn notififactions:

@Jacobus turning off TbT is not a solution even if that’s what most do.

yes, i have turned off the TbT also because of what its described here. I really hope Suunto is aware, they must have some stats from the watch usage? and see that nobody is using the TbT. and it is a shame!

Still, I love my watch! and it can only gets better!

isazi

@Antoine-Lancrenon kinda reported it again to Suunto, they are aware of the situation.

stromdiddily

@isazi said in Navigation - turn notififactions:

@Antoine-Lancrenon kinda reported it again to Suunto, they are aware of the situation.

the Lord’s work

altcmd

@isazi its the same way they are aware that their watch is laggy, atleast to Garmins and Ambits.

isazi

@altcmd they are also working on making the new watches less laggy, and according to most users the lag is pretty inconsequential when using the watch for real (not for YouTube)