Offline music playback
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@Likarnik said in Offline music playback:
@zhang965 what if new watch will have offline music? Suunto in 5 star hotel?
Itâs a liesheng watch.
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@Egika Back in the mid 2000s the software team I led added MP3 and Audible book support to a portable automotive GPS. It was quite a bit of work⌠I do not miss embedded device software development with an RTOS. I spent about 12 years developing software for embedded RTOS devices. It was fun, donât get me wrong. But I much prefer these days working on Linux for SoC design and development.
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@esca233 So we have to use some third-party apps to convert Spotify to MP3 otherwise, Spotify is not supported on Suunto Watch.
Edit: link removed
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I was a big SuuntoFan but changed to Garmin due to several Software bugs and Features Suunto promised to have but after waiting for months and nothings nothing changed.
I would now immediately change back to Suunto but the onliest thing that stops me is that the Race (or any Suunto watch) does not have music stored on the watch. I dont want to go running with my smartphone !!! Wo runs with a heavy smartphone??
Itâs like going to swim with stones in your pockets. Makes no senseâŚWaiting for this function to finally change back to Suuno. I would change also just for the app. Way better
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@kl-peintner I run with my phone, an Apple 13mini. Garmin implementation of Apple Music is worse than horrible! I am unsure whether any current hardware will have music storage. There is a lot of mixed opinion on this. Playing music and streaming to headphones has a major battery hit and Suunto has worked hard to optimize battery life. The only Suunto with music storage is the Suunto 7, which was a WearOS watch, my experience with music storage on that watch was better than Garmin but not by much.
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Even if I was once a mp3 man, one must admit that this age is over. And I donât want to listen to the same music all the time.
Streaming is now the use.
Unless we got OTA music listening with awesome battery (I mean that would not affect exercice battery life) I beg that we never got music on our suuntoâs.
If I want to listen to music I take my phone and my wings. I use a belt the phone doesnât move at all. -
Other manufacturers have figured out how to have playlists imported from Spotify or Apple music and streamed from the device. A simple manual update or sync keeps the playlists updated and fresh.
Itâs a bit of a laugh that Suunto canât implement even basic mp3 support, let alone syncing capabilities at this stage when you can find the functionality in even $20 devices these days.
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@Roox911
other manufacturers might focus on smart watch features while Suunto apparently focuses on adventure and multisport features (thank you for that, Suunto) -
@freeheeler @Tieutieu @Roox911 I think Suunto choose to put forth what their core demographic wants. I have seen it time and time again where companies dilute their products and it becomes a âjack of all trades, master of noneâ scenario.
I look at the Suunto 7 which did not meet mine (and I bet most) expectation of an adventure/sport watch. It was way too similar to a galaxy pixel watch in features to stand out. Well, Suunto killed it, went back to âits rootsâ with the Peak 9/Vertical/Race.
To me they are like a good restaurant that focus on a few dishes but executes well on all of them.
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Offline playback from Spotify is mandatory. Full stop.
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@outdoorrama Yeah thatâs why we are lucky to already have it on so many devices that we donât really need it on our outdoor watch
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@ZdenÄk-HruĹĄka You donât have to like it, but it is a must criterion for many potential consumers. And it has to be included in the expensive top-of-the-range models. Otherwise there is a (justified) feeling that the manufacturer is not keeping up with software development.
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@ZdenÄk-HruĹĄka PS For me, this is an indicator of problematic developments at companies. Not a statement in the sense of focussing. If it were, the inadequate turn-by-turn navigation would have been fixed long ago. Because that is the core.
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@outdoorrama I believe that there are many much more important functions which could be implemented into the watch (and many improvements) and which many more people would prefer rather than a music playback. It could be there, of course. But itâs definitely not âmandatory. Full stop.â
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@ZdenÄk-HruĹĄka As a new user with a developer background, I was simply disappointed by many things in the Suunto clocks in terms of usability and functionality (a view from the outside, so to speak). Since this thread is about MP3, my statement was accordingly clear. But I personally donât need music and I agree with you that there are more important tasks.
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@Todd-Danielczyk Then you get something like the Fenix Pro and Epix Pro that can do everything very well. Including offline and streaming service music playback. I can CHOOSE battery life, or music playback. Charging isnât something youâre limited to do once a month so the argument that Suunto chooses battery life makes no sense, itâs not like having the option to play music decreases battery life if you donât use itâŚ
Sometimes I run with my phone, but for example when racing, I donât want to, yet I still want music. Itâs a fantastic feature to have the option to use.
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@Shuhite glad you are happy with Garmin. I would argue that they donât do charging pins all that great. Yes, they corrode. Yes, it has been known for some time. That pushed me out of their camp.
You and I might use our products differently (guessing from your comment about charging not being a big deal and the need for onboard music being a big deal). That is the beauty of having options, we buy what we like.
For me I did my research on what my Vertical could and could not do as it was bought, it ticked most of the needs for me; Garmin products do not.
(and for the record, when I am out in the wilderness, I rather be aware of my surroundings than distracted by music; hence why I did not choose a watch on that criteria. So there is also that.)
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@Todd-Danielczyk Iâve been drooling at Suunto watches for years, but I have been using Garmin for even longer. I bought the Race, it dug holes in my wrist so that was the reason I returned it. I WISH Suunto made a watch that doesnât have lugs pointing down like they do on the Race and Vertical. I am way more partial to Suuntoâs designs than Garmins, but Race vs Epix was just no comparison (price doesnât matter to me, comfort and functionality does).
For curiosity sake, what does the Suunto Vertical provide that a Fenix doesnât? Outside of design thatâs subjective. Was battery life it? Because yea the Vertical a big improvement in that use case only as far as I can tell.
Iâve had Garmin watches for the last 6 years, never had any issues with corrosion on the pins. I clean the watch before it gets gross, and donât charge it while the pins are wet, issue avoided. That said, I would like them to switch to magnetic charging, it would be nicer for sure.
I canât handle the loud road noises in cities, so I use earphones for reducing it while listening to music that I like. On trails I donât care. I still like to have the option.
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@outdoorrama I donât use Spotify, I use Qobuz. Does that mean Qobuz is mandatory, Full Stop as well? I certainly donât want Suunto wasting their time on a service like Spotify that I donât use. What about amazon music, google music, tidal, deezerâŚ
Prob. best Suunto focus on being an activity watch company rather than an iPhone clone, in my opinion. There are lots of companies that will sell you a 20 gram mp3 player you can put in your pocket, clip on your waist belt or stick in your ear if you donât want to take your phone, with the added advantage they have their own battery so wonât drain your watch.
