Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!

lessthanmore

@Kk2n-Kk To be honest, I’m waiting for my watch to reboot with every activity that I record and so far nothing happened.
The only bug I have/ had is when zooming out on the map there are some black tiles for appr. 1 second.
I do not use any S+ apps though.

@Luís-Pinto don’t worry. I believe you are honest. I start to think that it is like there are really bad batch out there … and with varying scenarios. Nick for example encountered issue with maps and reset, while my friend did not but my friend encountered regular restart

@lessthanmore now, my friend on the other hand, never encountered single issue with maps. However though, the restart was another problem

@Luís-Pinto said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:

Never experienced mandatory faults. Just personal experience.

Not sure what you call “mandatory faults”. If you mean forced reboots… I did experience those on Suunto during activities and when starting activities, going all the way back to S9B. Do they happen often? No. But they do happen. And in all cases but one (last weekend), the reboot also resulted in data loss.

Luís Pinto

@NickK Yes, for me major faults are restarts not wanted.

mikekoski490

@Kk2n-Kk said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:What makes him pissed because he need to pay for shipping back to return it to Amazon US

Ahhh…Amazon as a retailer is still selling Verticals though?

surfboomerang

@NickK Same here. Never experienced any reboots in my S9B, S9P and SV.
Seems some kind of weird settings cocktail which triggers the reboots/crashes.

@mikekoski490 Amazon USA , not even Amazon Sg. Unfortunately.

@surfboomerang I wonder if it is weird cocktail of config mix or is there really bad hardware batch out there?

Egika

@Kk2n-Kk said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:

@Egika my wish is simple. A watch that does not reboot in middle of my workout.

That is understandable. Now I still don’t get the point of posting this here.
The forum is not the wishing tree.
Posting this just has no effect on anything.

@Egika I believe wishing for restart free watch is not a “wishing for feature”. And if not this forum, then where to feedback the issue?

mikekoski490

@Kk2n-Kk I think everyone here has heard you. We get it. You don’t own a Vertical but you have heard from friends and retailers your anecdotal stories and wishes and dire warnings. Guess we can move on now?

@mikekoski490 Not heard… correction. I saw with my own eyes… we were running together and he bought it upon my recommendation as I am known as Suunto fanboy here

Egika

@Kk2n-Kk we are not on the same page.
Suunto already has the same knowledge as you (and more in depth):

Some Suunto Verticals can crash mid-activity.
This is being worked on.
If this is your knowledge, what do you want to contribute now?

mikekoski490

@Kk2n-Kk An anecdote is a simple retelling of something that happened. Cheers.

@Egika all right. Great. I’ll just wait and see if that “in depth” knowledge will result in crash free watch after the fix.

lessthanmore

@Kk2n-Kk How, without a SV?
Seriously, you’re just stating that someone had a crash but you cannot share any additional/ necessary information (setup, s+, etc.).
I never had a reboot with the SV nor my fenix 7sSS; however in the garmin forum there are also folks with reboots.
So, what are you trying to achieve? You write in every single thread that Suunto’s dead …

@Egika said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:

With a statement like “this is not acceptable” - what would anyone here expect to happen?

Perhaps a proper QA testing cycle? A different group of QA testers that use the watch differently? Realistic deadlines for hardware and software deliveries? An open beta program like Garmin, COROS, and Apple have? An ability to report and vote on issues, like Garmin did? A statement from the company rep saying they are aware of a problem and looking into it? A timely fix?

There are a lot of things you can actually do, apart from sneeringly dismissing users’ concerns and defensively attacking them @Egika. You haven’t gotten that many users left!

Make Suunto change their processes, because you think you know how it works better? -> really?

Well, if I were to put out a release like the Vertical, the next morning I’d have a short chat with my boss and HR, and then security would take away my badge and escort me off the premises. Which is a big reason why I don’t put out releases like that.

But hey, I only got 25 years of experience in software industry… What do I know?

Since you obviously believe that Suunto’s process is fantastic and testing is top notch, could you please explain why the offline maps don’t work? Or how can a broken recovery timer be missed during testing? Or why calories do not add up?

@NickK @Kk2n-Kk (so many K’s, but you are different individuals I guess):

Imagine that! There’s more than one person who’s for some reason unhappy and has K in his handle. I think we should outlaw Ks.

surfboomerang

@Egika said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:

Some Suunto Verticals can crash mid-activity.
This is being worked on.

Does this mean that it’s not hardware related, but a mix of settings? If so, can Suunto recommend what settings to change or disable in the meantime so that people can avoid crashes mid-activity until the hotfix arrives?

@surfboomerang said in Software Firmware Update Suunto Vertical?!:

Seems some kind of weird settings cocktail which triggers the reboots/crashes.

We are talking Suunto, not Garmin, right? It practically has no settings.

So, if by “weird settings cocktail” you mean starting a run activity, or starting a run activity with an S+ app… well, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m supposed I’m too weird for Suunto. And @Egika hates Ks in my name too.