Resources drop to 0%

TrailEyes

I’ve only been wearing my 9 Baro during sleep for the past couple of weeks, so I’m still getting used to Resources and how it measures. Today I had a tough 10-mile trail race, but still I was surprised to see at 7:30 in the evening that my Resources dropped to 0%. I’ve never bottomed out like that before.

I presume I’m not currently dead, so can anyone help my understand what that number would mean? If it means I need to lay on my butt the rest of the night, doggone it, I’ll do it.

I started the day at 100%, and while I’m certainly tired from my race today, I’m not totally wiped out, so a 0% metric feels a little aggressive.

Thoughts?

Brad_Olwin

@traileyes Is your resting HR set to minimum? If so raise the resting HR to what it is if you sit still and have not had a hard workout the day before. Setting to minimum will drop Resources. Stress will lower resources too.

TrailEyes

@brad_olwin The setting in the watch was 60 bpm, which I assume was a default setting as I had to hard reset my 9B this week and hadn’t touched it since. I changed that setting to 46, which is what my watch has been showing me on average for resting recently.

Is there another place in the SA that it would need to be set too? I notice that some of the settings were different in the watch vs in the app (like step target and weekly activity hours), but I couldn’t find where in the app I could potentially adjust HR.

Egika

@traileyes settings look fine. You were active all day, so resources depleted.
0 does not mean you are dead. It means you should rest to not ruin your training

ChrisA

@traileyes I would guess that 46 is too low to actually be your RHR during the day. That seems to be the HR during the night. In my experience your daily RHR is higher. If you sit down relaxed on a table and start an indoor workout while doing nothing for 10 to 20 minutes the average HR you get from this is more your daily RHR and for me that’s about 10 to 15 beats more than my sleeping HR.
For building up resources again: One or two hours After a hard workout sit down comfortably but upright and relax your body. Start breathing in for 4 to 5 seconds and breath out for 10 to 15 seconds. When breathing in relax your abdomen and your belly and when breathing out relax your shoulders, neck and whole body but draw in your lower belly muscles a little bit. Close your eyes if you want and listen to relaxing music or sounds. It’s a simplified version of buddhistic breathing and I do it in a bit more detailed way in the evening and it raises my resources again

Brad_Olwin

@traileyes I did a 50k race yesterday and pushed myself setting a PR. My resources were 0 at the end of the race and I only gained 30% sleeping so still very low. I typically don’t sleep well after Ultras as my legs are restless. So this is normal for me. I would not do a hard workout today and frankly, not sure I could.

TrailEyes

Thank you everyone for your help and insights!

helgonet12

So updated my Suunto 9B to the latest version and the resources bug where the recourses drops to 0 or close when doing an activity in the morning is not fixed in the latest update. It’s now 1 year since it stopped working properly and still no fix? Any plans on fixing this or is it what it is?

zadow

Dears, unfortunately resource drop to 0% issue encoutered again today. Latest firmware on S9B. In the morning, after wake up, I had 64% of resources. Right after wake up, I did an easy yoga for 15 minutes and voila, resources dropped to 0%.
I already sent logs via Suunto link. here is the ID: 181713069100
@isazi, many thanks for your help in advance!

btw, I tried to send logs right from the SA, but there is no identification. How Suunto can identify and pair logs from SA with a reported issue, when there is no ID?

Thanks!

isazi

@zadow said in Resources drop to 0%:

Dears, unfortunately resource drop to 0% issue encoutered again today. Latest firmware on S9B. In the morning, after wake up, I had 64% of resources. Right after wake up, I did an easy yoga for 15 minutes and voila, resources dropped to 0%.
I already sent logs via Suunto link. here is the ID: 181713069100
@isazi, many thanks for your help in advance!

Reported it.

btw, I tried to send logs right from the SA, but there is no identification. How Suunto can identify and pair logs from SA with a reported issue, when there is no ID?

For SA, instead of the ID, they need your SA username and the time logs were sent.

Brad_Olwin

@TrailEyes Your HR was still high for a long time after the race. I bottom out as well but keep us informed.

zadow

@isazi does it make sense to provide additional logs?
Same scenario occured again, today…After light yoga, resources drop to 0%

wmichi

In my experience this has nothing to do with the setting for resting HR. In my opinion this is simply a bug and there are other threads in this forum about it. I guess Suunto knows this already for a long time. Whenever I do a yoga/stretching session (15 minutes, HR very low, sometimes near resting hr), my resources drop instantly to 0%. In the morning this can be from 90% to 0%. This happens with my S9PP, and it happened with S9P and S9B. I can reproduce this every single time.

This is not happening, when I do a taxing interval session in the morning. So I guess the algorithm has a problem with „training sessions“, where the HR is very low.

This never happened with a Garmin watch (body battery).

It seems, that Suunto watches are not build for these easy relaxing sessions. Only for the hardcore stuff

Workaround: Don‘t track yoga with a Suunto watch but instead with something else. Maybe something like Polar Beat connected with a cheststrap and sync the workout via RunGap to Suunto.

isazi

@zadow not necessary, this is well known within Suunto.

BinoWorld UK

@isazi it sounds like a bug, I have been using S7 for two years and my resources even with Covid and totally wiped out with 39° temperature was about 5% the entire day but, never zero