SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.19.42 January 27, 2022

[A Former User]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos

I wont go to internals but it is not an easily subject to describe.

Thanks a lot. Yes I can somehow imagine how things are going! I startet to think about this, because I did a relative flat run on stormy weekend with continuous falling hPa (~ 5-6hPa) and I had way more ascent / descent than usually on this track. 180 vs 100 aprox. Then I started thinking…

[pilleus]

Suunto plus - Climb

If auto stop is activated, the Suunto plus mode “Climb” does start a new hill after a stop during an uphill.

Feature or bug?

[freeheeler]

@pilleus
philosophical question IMHO… it depends what type of users we are… straight forward runner athletes might prefer a new hill once they stop e.g. for refueling water… but for hiking it would make sense to keep the “old” hill when you take a short stop

[Egika]

@freeheeler makes sense.
But as a hiker, why would you use S+ Climb?

[DMytro]

@egika I can answer that: to estimate vertical speed in specific difficulty regions for a better time anticipation in the future. That’s at least what I’ve been trying to do XD

[freeheeler]

@dmytro
yep

[Egika]

@dmytro I must admit I have never used this feature. Is there any difference to the various vertical speed data fields available in sport mode customization?

[DMytro]

@egika it’s not for in workout, it’s for post workout.

[freeheeler]

@dmytro
aaah, see… that’s why I am not a member of the club you do not talk about … didn’t even notice that

[DMytro]

@freeheeler what do you mean XD?

[isazi]

@egika you get automatic laps. And you get a grade data field too

[freeheeler]

@dmytro
because I honestly don’t remember the difference of the displays in SA when you had hill climb activated or not…
but I find it somehow useful in the activity already. hill grade, number of climbs etc… of course it would be best if we could see the avg vertical speed since the last climb. the “now” vertical speed doesn’t tell me much to be realistic… the avg for a consecutive climb has much more information.

[Egika]

@isazi said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.19.42 January 27, 2022:

@egika you get automatic laps. And you get a grade data field too

OK. Thank you. Automatic laps I knew, but for hiking don’t see the use case. Grade is definitely an extra - still need to learn what I would do with it on a hike.
But this is definitely a personal thing.
Thank you all for your explanations!

[DMytro]

@egika for example, how comfortable you are while climbing/scrambling a section of a certain steepness? I don’t care for the grade myself though.

[Egika]

@freeheeler lap avg vertical speed is available as a standard data fields (with with manual laps though - but if you are not doing hill repeats it should be possible to press that lap button ;))

[freeheeler]

@egika
I usually have auto laps activated for skitouring and I have one datafield for laps avg vertical speed in m/h… this is somehow what I would like to see. but of course laps are every km and this never matches with flat and steep sections on the tour… but gives at least an indication.
I tried manual laps… but skitouring is so much more than having the eyes on the watch. sometimes I completely ignore it and hence wouldn’t push the lap button… and of course it would be cumbersome since I am one of the biggest lock button fans around here

edit: @Egika see, same thoughts

[isazi]

@freeheeler try the S+ hill climb. It will do the laps for you (they are not 100% precise, but better than nothing), and you can see the average speed in your custom screen.

[freeheeler]

@isazi
ah really? does it do the laps from S+ and hence show my pre-set avg vertical speed triggered by S+??
didn’t know that

…the only drawback: only one S+ at a time

[DMytro]

@freeheeler which ones do you usually use on ski tours?

[Egika]

@dmytro said in SOFTWARE UPDATE 2.19.42 January 27, 2022:

@freeheeler which ones do you usually use on ski tours?

Me: weather