Software update 2.18.18 Sept 28 2021

Frederick Rochette

So it’s not a major update. The good news is for the fix update.
A new watch face
Improved sync speed with Suunto app
Improved Altitude readings
New Ascent/Descent algorithm
Music control is useless because we can control music on all headsets and it’s much more convenient when we run. The only interesting thing would be to have the possibility to synchronize music via spotify and play it off line. I would like to have your opinion on this point especially since I tried by launching an activity and it does not work (freez…)
wait for the next one…

TheGuyFromTheSummit

@dmytro thanks! too bad, then I have overlooked that small but important detail let’s hope

Richard Thygesen

@frederick-rochette For me it’s major because of the modified algo regarding acsent/decsent. Really don’t need any more functions like music control.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Awesome update! Do you know if fixes include:

Zombie notifications?
Fix to ETA in Ghost Runner, where it was calculating ETA based on the current pace and a total target distance, not the distance remaining?

A separate question: do you know how fat/carbs are counted? I’d imagine it should be off my heart rate, but then the watch would need to have my aerobic threshold somewhere? Perhaps, anchored as one of the zones?

isazi

@nickk said in Software update 2.18.18 Sept 28 2021:

Zombie notifications?

It should improve this, at least for most use cases.

Fix to ETA in Ghost Runner, where it was calculating ETA based on the current pace and a total target distance, not the distance remaining?

Yes.

DMytro

@nickk I would bet it uses zones for the estimate.

Fix to ETA in Ghost Runner, where it was calculating ETA based on the current pace and a total target distance, not the distance remaining?

Yes.

This would be super-useful! Will definitely give it a whirl!

@dmytro The devil’s in the details then. Polar recommends anchoring aerobic threshold as top of the Zone 3, in addition to supplying it in the Polar Flow settings. Hence, they can do things like FuelWise to calculate fat vs carb burn and give you personalized eating reminders.

Suunto will have to have some specific instructions as to how the heart rate zones should be set up in order for it to be more than a guesstimate. I don’t think simply a % of max HR or even HR reserve would cut it. Yes, you can drive it off that, but it would be a very generic solution.

DMytro

@nickk btw I hope suunto will release a short article on nutrition when using s+ burner.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nickk I personally dont really think this is so much related to z3. Especially now that BG meters come out.

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos I’m not saying it is related to Z3, I’m saying the watch has to have a way to get your aerobic threshold somehow. As per BG meters… I’m not sold to say the least. I think there was even a pretty good article looking into this latest fad.

isazi

@nickk maybe this one?

@isazi Yep! You beat me to it.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nickk I am completely sold tbh. And yes I am using SS

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nickk typically people set the AT at end of Z4 and most coaches etc recommend the same. Of course you need a test to know that but then again you need a test to know max hr etc etc

Dušan Ković

Media controls FTW! Can they be accessed from the exercise mode? New watch face is meh

Any info on new altitude algo?

auxina

Great update.
I love seeing new things on the watch.
I have noticed 2 functions that I have not seen commented:

“Training” field in all watchfaces.
Now, when I touch the screen, the light turns on (even though the clock is locked), is it a mistake? Can it be deactivated?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@auxina watch ?

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Re: Sapiens and BG. Off-topic. I don’t know. I’ve just had two 20-milers spaced by an easier week. Exact same setup in terms of daily routine coming in, comparable training load, same setup in terms of hydration and energy during the runs, very similar flattish routes with similar elevation gain. The only difference was the first run was mostly in the open, with sunny weather and little wind, 23°C (probably more toward the end). The second was at 14°C, mostly in the shade, with the wind picking up later in the run. In both cases I didn’t drive my pace and just went by the feel.

Now, not only the first run was considerably slower, it felt way, way worse, and not just at the end, but throughout. I don’t think my blood glucose had much to do with that. And funny enough, gels didn’t seem to help either.

My personal pet theory is: your core temp rules. Once your internals start to boil you might as well pump yourself full of sweet-and-sour sauce instead of GU, that would hardly make a difference.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@nickk well if you take a gel in less than 1.5h i think it does the opossite effect. Regarding heat , I am not sure. I perform better there.

Its more related to finding out when you are well fuelled and when you need a gel at (z1-z5) vs Z4-5 workouts