GPS normal?
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@łukasz-szmigiel
Absolutely agree with Lukasz on this.
Haven noticed this on the S7 and on the F6xPS. I noticed sometimes my distances would be slightly out and when I check my post activity maps I noticed that I the track didn’t always have me starting at the same place. So the next time I ran I waited for the affirmation of good GPS fix, and then I went into the maps. 80% of the time your icon is on your position, but the other 20% of the time it wasn’t (was within 100m), and giving that extra bit of time 30s-60s was always enough time for it the position fix to be on your exact spot. -
@jamie-bg I’ve seen this issue of “wait a little bit longer” on the forum that I really think a new way of informing users of GPS fix quality should be developed. Either change the threshold when the watch responds with green arrow or make an intermediate phase, like “no fix” - “ok fix” - “good fix”. You can start the workout with “ok fix” and it’ll most probably get better during first 15 minutes of workout but you can wait a little longer for it to stabilize and be good from the start.
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@łukasz-szmigiel Per my opinion there is a space for improvement in S9 line firmware/features in terms of stability/accuracy. For now I would be satisifed if exisitng one could be “stabilsed”
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@łukasz-szmigiel - problem with that is people then complain that it takes too long to get a fix…In most cases on average most people don’t overly get worried with a 100m or so difference.
Can’t win either way - either complain too long - or complain not accurate enough…
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@jamie-bg you can. Redesign slightly the GPS icon. Make it filled as it is right now for “ok fix” and add a minuscule detail for “good fix”.
Those who don’t care won’t notice and it’ll be backwards compatible but those who see the difference and for whom it matters will know what to look for.
But it’ll never get implemented as it’ll take too long to design / develop / test while bringing too little of an improvement and we all know that
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@łukasz-szmigiel yup. While I am with you I agree to what you said.
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@dimitrios-kanellopoulos that’s too bad
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@dmytro It could be done with little effort.Simple colors on existing icon.Red-bad,amber-fair,green-good.
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@djordje-s impossible since GPS icon is color coded according to battery mode. I’d go with a small + below the icon or small “OK”. Or maybe double arrow (like a shadow with a +3 px to the right).
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@łukasz-szmigiel that is true but again traffic light system for notification is recognized and easiest for understanding
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@djordje-s I agree. But that would deviate too much from original UI in my opinion.
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Probably too complicated but it would be useful if the GPS icon could function like a glass getting filled up. What I mean is that with no GPS the icon is just an outline, then as a fix is acquired and the GPS starts coming up to strength the icon starts to fill with colour. Once GPS is locked in and everything is good it’s completely filled and you’re alerted with a beep & vibration (as we currently are)
Hope that makes sense? Like that pic above but obviously with the GPS icon instead of a glass
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@miniforklift that would be cool, but I kinda think that icon is too small for such animation + pixels are not dense enough. For S7 maybe?
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@miniforklift also,I would add a notification feature(beep+vibration) in a case of week/lost GPS.
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@dmytro said in GPS normal?:
@miniforklift that would be cool, but I kinda think that icon is too small for such animation + pixels are not dense enough. For S7 maybe?
An updated larger GPS icon for the S9?..
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@djordje-s said in GPS normal?:
@miniforklift also,I would add a notification feature(beep+vibration) in a case of week/lost GPS.
Yes please, that would be great. Maybe even a little cluster of vibrations as it’s easy to miss the single ones when you’re running. If it was a small cluster of vibrations you’d also know exactly what it means without having to even look at your watch
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@miniforklift but then… What would you do with such information during the workout? That the signal is weak?
There is an alarm when the signal is lost. At last there was in 2019’s firmware.
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@łukasz-szmigiel said in GPS normal?:
@miniforklift but then… What would you do with such information during the workout? That the signal is weak?
Probably not much you can do, but good to know nonetheless
@łukasz-szmigiel said in GPS normal?:
@miniforklift There is an alarm when the signal is lost. At last there was in 2019’s firmware.
Yes, there could well be. I don’t know if I have ever completely lost GPS during an activity so it’s not something I’m familiar with
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@miniforklift speaking from an S5 user’s perspective: There is one “fantastic” notification that I have to deal with - typically when I need my watch the most - ie. when navigating rocky terrain uphils slowly. I don’t want another one of a kind: “hey, you know what, gps is weaker here, just sayin’”
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@miniforklift but then you are back to the same issue - people will wait for the glass to be fill and complain how long its taking.
much prefer @Lukasz Szmigiel’s idea - as it basically tells you are good to go, but if you hold on we will be even better. A bit like fused tracking in some ways - 1s less battery, 10s more battery. Its making it a choice.
Traffic light symbol does really signify choice, it more signifies we aren’t there yet…
And I know - the difference is small and really irrelevant, but to the general population - that is a major difference, and is the diference between people saying it takes 10s to get a fix and 30s to get a fix.
