Suunto 9 Baro Screen Quality/Clarity
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@shvffles there were some rumors of s9peak coming out in summer or in fall. Why wait though? S9 was polished via a lot of software updates if you compare it to s9 when it was launched. If we speculate s9peak will be launched in a similar way, it will probably be less useful first year or so.
Also because s9 is almost 3yo it’s also quite a bit cheaper then top tier Garmin and coros watches and also cheaper then potential fresh s9 peak.
If you however think that s9 feature set isn’t sufficient, you could indeed wait, but for how long is the question. -
@дима-мельниченко Yeh absolutely. It was just that when I saw the info, I thought, maybe better to wait. But…there will always be something new around the corner and as the Peak seems to be from the S9 family, it can’t be too different I don’t think.
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@shvffles we’ll see I guess
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@shvffles You’re welcome. So to answer your question about the info on the watch-face. Here is where the s9 and the f6x differ. One being Linux alike and the other Mac/Win
So the s9 has types of watch-faces: outdoor, fitness, training and then some classic where the relevant information of the type is shown. You can interact with most of them though. So the one I use one press and it gets you to show info of the altitude one more and it shows weather info (baro, see @Brad_Olwin post above - it is the same watch-face with mine). You can of course choose different colors for all the watch-faces. Garmin (the Linux in this case) is totally configurable: it has two types digital and analog (btw s9 has also analog types) and the info shown is configurable. The placeholders (separated by the colored separators) can be custom-tailored to show whatever you want. Even the control center (as they call the quick menu) can be custom as well as can be the ‘widgets’ menu. This is where you see overview of the info you want to see: weather, training progress, sleep, alti/baro, etc.
I always have had a weak point for Suunto (Ambit series, Spartan and 2 S9baro), then I switched to Polar and was gifted my Fenix cause of the info I needed after an injury I had (run dynamics - but you need garmin’s HR belt for this).
To put it simply in the beginning the Fenix felt like over-engineered and too complex, on the other hand it gives you all sort of possibilities some of which I never used (golf, walk the dog - I know: WTF, music, full maps, etc.).
The thing is: it is nice to have all this on your wrist but how useful it is depends on your preferences and needs. I.e.: I am at certain age that I consider modern music to be noise at best (IMHO) so maybe for young generations the music reproduced by the fenix is ok, for me though it is not: so I always carry my mobile when easy running, hence a feature garmin charges but I do not use.
If you check their forums in the beginning the f6x was called by many a Random Number Generator and garmin didn’t fix the bugs but was ‘polishing’ the Golf, the walk the dog, etc.
I was hiking and running uphill just to see what is wrong and while polar was showing HR of 148 the garmin was showing 78!! This as you know was destroying all other metrics: training status, recovery, etc. It is only after 13 iterations that they somewhat fixed it. This was no HW issue since I found the running OHR even better than the S9 (at least in initial stages of my run where the s9 for some reasons still locks to my cadence and then normalizes). They have different algorithms per activity for everything: vo2, HR, etc so this was the reason that they were suggesting: use walking activity when hiking and indeed the HR was much better the thing is you didn’t have ascent vs descent).
Now though with the latest FW (16.6) the watch is in much better state. Credits where is due
So to sum in my experience:- suunto: outdoor, hiking, trail run
- polar: running - the data they have in flow is just out of this world
- garmin: a bit of everything with heavy emphasize on the social (you got badge cause you beat your friend, etc) and navigation (this is where they shine due to their heritage)
Hope it helped and FYI I always consider ‘non-pro’ users to go for garmin (at least in the past) and sport enthusiasts to go for suunto or polar.
Cheers and take care.
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@hristijan-petreski Thanks for that really detailed overview - it’s definitely given me food for thought.
From my perspective, I’ve only gotten into fitness over the last several months. I’m 6.1”, 37 and before I started running (treadmill), I weighed 108KG.
I’m now down to 94KG and so, getting a watch (my first sports watch) is effectively a gift/motivator for where I’ve come from and where I hope to go.
Family and colleagues all use Garmin so that’s where the bias kicks in (I do like the size of the 6X).
But I think I kind of want something with my own stamp on it. I came across the configurator yesterday on the Suunto site and put together a pretty sweet design with a lime strap, silver bezel and engraving on the underside. It’s a little more expensive €499 but it’s mine (if you know what I mean), plus, this forum, and in particular, this thread has really made Suunto all that more appealing to be honest - a very welcoming and helpful bunch of people!!!
Going forward, I hopefully see myself heading outdoors and into the mountains and my new found love for fitness has me thinking about an ultra in a few years…maybe.
Decisions…
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@shvffles the goal of this forum is to be a meeting place for the community of Suunto users, and I am glad you like the atmosphere here!
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@shvffles You are definitely right. There is my weak point for Suunto. It is smaller but it feels like ‘family’. And I prefer to ‘support’ some smaller companies, otherwise in a couple of years the conglomerates will dictate everything (the next fenix will be north of 1k eur). If I hadn’t received the f6x I would never have bought it.
Make sure (from my experience) that there will be much more ‘looking eyes’ at your Suunto than your Garmin
Size between the 2 is almost identical as is the weight (especially if you go for the titanium version S9 is even lighter).
Plus when going outside: enjoy the scenery, the view, the surroundings, the companies and you will find much joy than blindly following the numbers on your wrist. Cheers and keep going, the s9 will surely help you achieve your goals, just do not force anything. I started with 7:30 min per km and HR of 170 to 4:30 per km and 140 in my late 30s so anything is possibleSuunto watches: Ocean, Race, Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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@hristijan-petreski said in Suunto 9 Baro Screen Quality/Clarity:
I started with 7:30 min per km and HR of 170 to 4:30 per km and 140 in my late 30s so anything is possible
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@hristijan-petreski I understand now why you needed to recover from an injury. Just kidding
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@efejota
Actually the knee injury was basketball related. After a couple of months the running was making my knee hurt even more only to find out that due to the injury I was subconsciously putting more stress to my sick leg (thinking that in this way I will return it to normal). This is where the run dynamics from the Garmin HRM helped a lot. It showed me that I use the sick leg 55% longer on ground and the healthy one 45%. It took a lot of forced effort to bring it to balance.Suunto watches: Ocean, Race, Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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@hristijan-petreski wow, that’s good to hear, I always thought that these things (like running dynamics - on watch/HRM, not in lab) are just a gimmick.
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@likarnik Yes. While not medically accurate they indeed indicate ‘patterns’ to take into account.
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@hristijan-petreski My wife works as a chief nurse in the Finland’s biggest hospital for artificial joint surgery (in case you should need replacement parts…)
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@hristijan-petreski impressive!
