Fitness level instructions not working.
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Hello can you help me to understand how to get fitness level instructions? It instructs me that i need to do at least 15 minutes of walking or running. First time i did walking 15 minutes and 34seconds with WHR and GPS. It didn’t worked so now i did 23 minutes walking with WHR and GPS and it didn’t work either. Still when i go to screen with fitness instructions it wants me to do at least 15 minutes walking excercise. And i already did it twice. I used Walking (basic) sports mode. How to get it works? I tried soft reset. I want to avoid hard reset since i don’t want to setup everything again.
I try to avoid running because of knee pain. I primary do MTB and Hiking. Will fitness level instructions starts to work even with Hiking excercise or do i need to do specificaly Walking excercise? Thank you.
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@tomas5 hiking will work too. Just try few more times, maybe do it a bit longer. MTB doesn’t contribute to fitness level.
On the other hand, if you don’t run, I wouldn’t expect fitness level or VO2Max to be reliable at all. I too don’t run but walk and hike instead. And although I often walk 6.5 - 7 km/h, my fitness level is still poor. -
@tomas5 It’s even worse with hiking because algorithm only considers horizontal speed and hr, so elevated HR during ascents will only farther decline your fitness level stats.
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@дима-мельниченко thanks for answer, i will try it with longer hike than
i don’t expect much but i was curious why it is still not available. I usually don’t track walking since i am more interested only on stats from hikes and bike. Maybe some feedback to suunto can make them to include vertical climb into calcultion. -
@tomas5 it’s. It suuntos fault since they use the algos provided by first beat. Maybe a s+ feature could be developed though to override estimations from firstbeat.
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@tomas5 also make sure that you hikes/walks include some hr variation i.e. not just a constant walk at 110 bpm.
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@дима-мельниченко thanks i will try that.
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Today i did 8km easy hike. With different HR as there was ascent/descent and flat parts. Instructions still want to do 15 minutes walk to start working.
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@tomas5 I would suggest to do a few more activities, also note that there are two sports profiles hiking and trekking, latter doesn’t have vO2max values.
Here’s a link to another thread, where someone needed a time to get those metrics up and running:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/4313/suunto-9-fitness-level-doesn-t-work/15?_=1617635557076Hope you get yours soon!
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@tomas5 If you can do an easy run without injury or hurting yourself, it would probably help as well. Or a steep hike to get HR up.
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I will give it a time. I do hikes so it should work. Do you know what is name for field to display VO2Max while hike? I don’t see this value in configuration of sports mode in suunto app. Is this value possible to display while hiking?
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@tomas5 Record the activity as a trail run, then it will apply to VO2Max, don’t record as a hike.
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos just feedback for suunto. Since i bought watch, it is few months now. I did around 60km of hiking excercise and few times basic walk excercise (10km). All of it with whr enabled. Still no fitness level instructions. I am still recomended by watch to do at least 15 min. of running or walking. I did hard reset about 2-3 hikes ago. Still no difference.
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@tomas5 when you do hard reset the past is not taken into account anymore.
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@isazi yes i know, i did’t hard reset partly because after 40km it still didn’t work at all. And since hard reset it is again around 20km and again not working. It says do at least 15 minutes. I did much much more than 15 minuts but no luck. Didn’t try running because of knee, but it is not required. I will try hike today with latest firmware since there was update around 10 days ago and i didn’t do any hike after.
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@tomas5 I started with walking last year in summer with a S9B and did a lot of walks (since I was too heavy back then and suffered from knee pain ) and I remember that the fitness level didnt`t show up until I actually “run” with the S9B using a running profile (the yellow ones). This running was not much faster than when I was walking really fast. So perhaps you just try to choose a running profile and walk / hike as fast as you can and see if it works then? Afterwards every walk (even short ones) showed an fitness level.
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@chrisa I do not know the exact requirements of the Firstbeat algorithm, but it is much easier to get the first estimate running than walking. After you get the first, then it is computed also for running/walking activities.
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@isazi well today first time after hike it started to work
finally. Maybe latest firmware improved something because it is my first hike with latest firmware. -
@isazi yes, thats what I meant
Did about 10 walks and no fitness level - then first run (which was actually not very much faster than walkin back at that time ) and after this one run fitnesss leve was shown
