Recovery Time vs Resource Amount
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Is there/should there be an expected correlation between recovery time and the resource amount shown?
In below, I had just completed a 3 hour trail run. If the recovery time is so high (and probably rightfully so after the effort) shouldn’t my resources reflect that and be much lower? I was back up to 90% the next morning which doesn’t make sense to me given the prescribed recovery time
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76% I guess it’s time for the photo. Looking at your chart in the previous hours your resources have increased, I guess you weren’t running but sleeping, right?
79 are the hours for a total cardiovascular recovery, i don’t think it is not directly connected with your resources.
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@saketo-nemo I believe the same. The Firstbeat resources are computed outside of activities and based on heart rate (and possibly hrv, but not sure). Not sure the two systems really talk (meaning, activities and Firstbeat resources).
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@stromdiddily These are interesting and I have major differences in Resources compared to Recovery Time as well. Recovery Time is an attempt to predict how long you should recover before your next hard effort. My long trail runs always give me a long recovery time, that is typically too long for me, how I feel and how I perform. In the summer when I am doing hard training I am often perpetually in recovery!
The resources are a better indicator for me of how you might perform that day. Was this a hard 3h trail run, moderate or easy? Most of mine are easy (low HR; zone 1/2) even though they are long. If I do a short interval run that is very hard, my resources get hit. If I have a bad nights sleep or a stressful day coupled with either a hard or long run it will tank my resources. Most of my resource recovery comes with sleep. On B2B long run weekends my resources and recovery time will both be impacted and I can feel that as Monday is a day off for me, I typically don’t feel like running. However, I do intervals on Tuesday and usually my resources have recovered even though I still have remaining recovery time.
After that unnecessarily long dribble, pay attention to how you feel and perform, find what works for you in regard to status monitoring and use that to help you train.
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@saketo-nemo said in Recovery Time vs Resource Amount:
76% I guess it’s time for the photo. Looking at your chart in the previous hours your resources have increased, I guess you weren’t running but sleeping, right?
79 are the hours for a total cardiovascular recovery, i don’t think it is not directly connected with your resources.
I wish sleeping LOL. I do longs early on Friday mornings before work so recovery time is spent at my home office desk
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@brad_olwin said in Recovery Time vs Resource Amount:
@stromdiddily These are interesting and I have major differences in Resources compared to Recovery Time as well. Recovery Time is an attempt to predict how long you should recover before your next hard effort. My long trail runs always give me a long recovery time, that is typically too long for me, how I feel and how I perform. In the summer when I am doing hard training I am often perpetually in recovery!
The resources are a better indicator for me of how you might perform that day. Was this a hard 3h trail run, moderate or easy? Most of mine are easy (low HR; zone 1/2) even though they are long. If I do a short interval run that is very hard, my resources get hit. If I have a bad nights sleep or a stressful day coupled with either a hard or long run it will tank my resources. Most of my resource recovery comes with sleep. On B2B long run weekends my resources and recovery time will both be impacted and I can feel that as Monday is a day off for me, I typically don’t feel like running. However, I do intervals on Tuesday and usually my resources have recovered even though I still have remaining recovery time.
After that unnecessarily long dribble, pay attention to how you feel and perform, find what works for you in regard to status monitoring and use that to help you train.
This was zone 1/2 effort for sure. I have definitely seen bigger impacts based on bad nights sleep to resources, which make sense to me and seems to follow your experience as well.
I don’t really rely on my watch to tell me how I feel, I just stumbled across it and found it interesting
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@stromdiddily I am pretty happy with Resources and using it to decide whether I might push a long run or take it easier. Shoveling wet heavy snow for 3h last week tanked my Resources too and convinced me not to add my scheduled 1h easy run on top of the shoveling. I am liking the resources information.
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@brad_olwin said in Recovery Time vs Resource Amount:
@stromdiddily These are interesting and I have major differences in Resources compared to Recovery Time as well. Recovery Time is an attempt to predict how long you should recover before your next hard effort. My long trail runs always give me a long recovery time, that is typically too long for me, how I feel and how I perform. In the summer when I am doing hard training I am often perpetually in recovery!
The resources are a better indicator for me of how you might perform that day. Was this a hard 3h trail run, moderate or easy? Most of mine are easy (low HR; zone 1/2) even though they are long. If I do a short interval run that is very hard, my resources get hit. If I have a bad nights sleep or a stressful day coupled with either a hard or long run it will tank my resources. Most of my resource recovery comes with sleep. On B2B long run weekends my resources and recovery time will both be impacted and I can feel that as Monday is a day off for me, I typically don’t feel like running. However, I do intervals on Tuesday and usually my resources have recovered even though I still have remaining recovery time.
After that unnecessarily long dribble, pay attention to how you feel and perform, find what works for you in regard to status monitoring and use that to help you train.
Does the recovery take into account naps ?
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@andré-faria
In terms of resources, yes. But even here, I suppose the fine tuning of your HR data is crucial. -
@andré-faria Recovery Time, likely not, Resources, yes