Turn off wrist HR on S9

pacos

@isazi you would agree that configuration in Movescount for each single sport activities was much more practical and complete. Sorry to say but this has been a step back (and SA is not even enabling any of the configuration mode).
It’s also make completely sense keeping S+ saved in a sport mode, if you set it, as I would be use always the same. And If you want to select each time just not save the default.
Sometime I forget to set it, and you cannot even add afterwards when activity starts, very unpractical.

cosme.costa

@pacos said in Turn off wrist HR on S9:

It’s also make completely sense keeping S+ saved in a sport mode, if you set it, as I would be use always the same. And If you want to select each time just not save the default.

Sorry but here but I disagree with you, I do not want S+ saved in a sport mode once activated. I use S+ from time to time and I want it activated when I choose it. Another thing is that I should be able to create a custom sport mode where I can add S+ as a screen and then is always activated.

pacos

@cosmecosta I’m saying that likewise in Movescount I would like the possibility to save in a sport mode a default S+, and if you want to select each time you leave the default off.
Now it’s always turned off, this is the only possibility.

freeheeler

@stromdiddily
there is no OHR setting in the customized battery mode… at least not in my settings
it’s for touch, gps quality, low color etc

isazi

@pacos said in Turn off wrist HR on S9:

@isazi you would agree that configuration in Movescount for each single sport activities was much more practical and complete.

I don’t agree at all, not even close, and I’ll tell you why

I never used movescount, but if it is similar to how Garmin works, with options for each activity type, than I am glad I’ve never used it. The Garmin implementation is a mess, it’s terrible, I spent years configuring stupid things for each and any activity type, to the point I had no idea which GPS constellation I was using unless I checked all sport types. A total nightmare, I much prefer the simple Suunto implementation.

But, this is my preference, there is no need for it to be your preference too. So I don’t agree with your assessment, but I can empathize and understand that you may prefer it for your personal use cases.

isazi

@TELE-HO said in Turn off wrist HR on S9:

@isazi
OHR is excluded from this setting, even for customized batterymode, as I remember

Didn’t know, considering that some of the ultra battery saving modes disable ohr I thought it was possible.

surfboomerang

@pacos I see what you mean.
I enabled wrist HR on a sport mode I created a couple of firmwares ago. By default HR is not on (wrist nor sensor). I enabled it, but it was just for that one activity. Once I ended it, it revert back to the default.

In my mind it was a permanent setting, but maybe that was a couple of firmwares ago. Otherwise I wouldn’t know how I was able to switch it off by default.

Derrick Spafford

Thanks for your thoughts. I tried to get back into Movescount to configure and disable OHR, but was unable to.

I really hope that Suunto comes up with a permanent solution as pressing a sequence of buttons 17 times before each run to disable the wrist HR is getting very old.

@pacos said in Turn off wrist HR on S9:

For the time being I think that you can use Movescount to remove the wrist HR by default from your activities.

surfboomerang

@Derrick-Spafford Just to be sure, I tried recreating one of my profile which has HR disabled by default. I was not able to do so.

So I guess something has changed between firmware updates. Not sure which one, but for what I can recall, there used to be one setting for HR, later this was separated into wrist HR and Sensor HR.
This was already the case before the last firmware update.

Derrick Spafford

Yes - I believe that is the case. I was always able to do this before, but recently had to do a reset and then when I tried to build a custom mode again without wrist HR, I was not able to do so.
The good thing is that I can now push the 17 button sequence every run now without looking at my watch from memory!

…but, yeah, kinda annoying.

surfboomerang

@surfboomerang said in Turn off wrist HR on S9:

@pacos I see what you mean.
I enabled wrist HR on a sport mode I created a couple of firmwares ago. By default HR is not on (wrist nor sensor). I enabled it, but it was just for that one activity. Once I ended it, it revert back to the default.

In my mind it was a permanent setting, but maybe that was a couple of firmwares ago. Otherwise I wouldn’t know how I was able to switch it off by default.

Now that I had to recreate my sport modes on my new S9P, I face this problem too
Wrist HR is enabled every time for sport modes where I never use it. I disable it from the menu, but that is a one-time setting.

Any news on this behaviour?

Brad_Olwin

@surfboomerang I will likely stay this way…

surfboomerang

@brad_olwin What is the idea behind it? To me it makes much more sense to store the HR setting (wrist and sensor) in the sport mode as it used to be in a previous firmware version.

TonyG

@surfboomerang
There’s a few posts about this behaviour, and asking for the logic, I myself have also wondered why.

Suunto does what Suunto does; and from my observations rarely bows to customer requests or demands, except on those fairly rare occasions where a bug has been introduced. They may as @Brad_Olwin has pointed out on another thread listen to the request and build it into a new model, but even that is a rare event from what I have observed.

I do love Suunto and have been using their products for some 25 years and will continue to do so but I never hold any hope of Suunto changing a course of direction once its out in the public domain.

surfboomerang

@t1sugar I think Suunto follows this forum more then we think, but due to the lack of communication we will never be sure. A lot of requested features were implemented eventually but we don’t know if it was because our requests or that they were already on their roadmap.

However, I have rarely seen existing features get a change in behavior or got removed. HR setting behavior is one and now backlight behavior seems to be another. No idea if Suunto is open for feedback on those decisions.

TonyG

@surfboomerang I’m sure you’re right, and lets face it, it’s not a huge issue not knowing the what and why behind decisions and directions it should be enough that the main functions of the watch work, and work well, hence why I love Suunto products.

slightly off topic!
I’m poised to get the new Peak (love my s9b but like the idea of having it in a smaller lighter package) just waiting to hear how folks are finding the gps chip performs and whether the WHR is any better in real world production version.

isazi

@t1sugar check the right topic then, people are posting already

TonyG

@isazi I have been! one or two examples so far.

Brad_Olwin

@surfboomerang I agree and suspect that it may be more difficult to implement than we think or is simply too low on priorities. For example on ski touring I would rather have the default as no HR. It is a hassle to put on a strap when layered up and I want the watch where I can see it so no OHR.

surfboomerang

@brad_olwin No idea if it is difficult if it was there previously. I created my windsurf profile on my (old ) S9B years ago. Turned off HR because the recordings were highly inaccurate due to excessive wrist movement. The setting was off by default ever since.

Now that I have recreated the sport mode on my S9P the behavior changed and apparently I can’t set the default flag anymore because I can’t reach it from the settings. Although I suspect that the watch still supports it.