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    SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation

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      A Former User
      last edited by A Former User

      first time following happen:
      time Strava and SA/S9 is different (-4 min Strava, 2h run, 4min is a lot)
      Pace is also better in some rounds in Strava…

      Whats up? Had anyone else this?
      Is this SA failure because of wrong Strava import?

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        isazi Moderator @Guest
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        @mountainChris did you stop for a break?

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          A Former User @isazi
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          @isazi no: is this strava autopause??? Should I have activated autopause in watch? I read once that Strava does cuts, if you are not manually pausing and have auto-pause not activated. But I wonder I did not ran to slow…

          Maybe GPS sometimes missing…

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            isazi Moderator @Guest
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            @mountainChris yes sometimes Strava removes the time when you are not moving, but only from the total time. Segments are not affected, for example.

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              isazi Moderator
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              Example from today, short hike, Strava removed 4 minutes from my total time because I stopped to take photos.

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                A Former User @isazi
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                @isazi I did not stop the whole time… So I think definitely a SA error

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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                  @mountainChris 4 min is a long time but if Strava thinks you are not moving it will cut the time. To check you can enable your activity in Strava as a Race, that eliminates any time that is cut due to not moving. If the Race setting matches SA then it is Strava doing the change not SA import.

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                    A Former User @Brad_Olwin
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                    @Brad_Olwin thanks! Good point. It is strava. Not Suunto. Sorry Suunto!

                    So interesting why strava thinks i am not moving… I did a reset of watch and did not turn on autopause. I think with autopause active Strava does not cut. Also when I use once manually pause…

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                      If you pause Strava respects your time.

                      If you don’t it will do magic. It’s in their support specs.

                      Tip: do a 1s fake pause and voila problem solved

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                        I hate when Strava does it’s magic…the other day I did a run and it scraped nearly seven minutes in a 1h 17 minutes run without stops… and I checked the map to try to find any issue and I couldn’t find any error on the contrary it was a really nice track on the map,…

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @cosme.costa
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                          @cosmecosta it has speed thresholds.

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                            cosme.costa @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation:

                            @cosmecosta it has speed thresholds.

                            Well could be but that day the thresholds weren’t working because I did nearly 15 km with nearly 370 m of positive ascent at a real pace of 5.13 min/min, I’m not a Pro but I think it is pretty decent. With Strava magic my pace would have been 4.45 min/km, If I trust strava maybe I need to start asking Suunto and Salomon for some sponsorship. 🤣 🤣 🤣

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @cosme.costa
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                              @cosmecosta good point. If you use QS what moving time do you get there? I have also kinda the same concept

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                                cosme.costa @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation:

                                @cosmecosta good point. If you use QS what moving time do you get there? I have also kinda the same concept

                                With QS I get the same than with SA…And with my last two runs Strava an SA match in time and pace, I guess Strava also has its bad days 😁 .
                                The strava magic is even more hateful when you are in big mountains and with quite big climbs/uphills. There you need to mark the move as a race to have exactly the real time and pace.

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                                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @cosme.costa
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                                  @cosmecosta you know how to force it to not do it ?

                                  Just make a very quick pause.

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                                    cosme.costa @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in SA and Strava show different training time + some rounds pace deviation:

                                    @cosmecosta you know how to force it to not do it ?

                                    Just make a very quick pause.

                                    Yeah I read your previous post, the thing is that I usually do not have this problem, only from time to time…Not big deal anyway

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @cosme.costa
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                                      @cosmecosta roger dat

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                                        hermionet
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                                        ha - i did a cycle at the weekend - 6h15 in Suunto app; 1h 45 according to Strava! Now THAT is a serious discrepancy. But Suunto GPS also messed up, cutting off 15km from a 102km ride, visible on the map through skipped switchbacks etc.

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @hermionet
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                                          @hermionet Sounds like you were in Endurance mode, not Performance.

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                                            hermionet @Brad_Olwin
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                                            @Brad_Olwin Ha! that might explain it… perhaps! i’ll double check next time…

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