S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?

Mff73

@Brad_Olwin
I dream reading all of you with your S7s, waiting to … buy one or the next one.
Btw, what is Kyoto on your graph ? The S7 nickname ?

Brad_Olwin

@Mff73 yes the early name for it. Good question about purchase. If you have the disposable $ it is a nice watch. Are you Android or iOS?

Mff73

@Brad_Olwin
I am android (with rooted phones ), and when I see some wear OS master here, playing with many tweak, i bite myself not to buy it.
I bought Ambit1 (it is still alive, but soon after, A2 and A3 came ).
I bought SSU at launch (it is still running with me ), but no more updates, and , and S9 came.
And now, S7, with wear OS. I will try to let this one and see next one (maybe when new battery techno will arrive).

isazi

@NickK never worked for me. Or better, it’s hit or miss, and in one hour strength session is right a few times. And most of the times it just says 0 reps.

Jonathan Newby

@Mff73 I too are wishing I’d bought an S7 but waiting for the follow on for the S9.

ursoos

When I’ve seen announcement of new Suunto 7 I got so excited that finally I’ll be able to get great WearOS watch with decent enough sport features.

And then Suunto releases watch without even ability to add define intervals and complex workouts.

Baffled why company positioning targeting sport enthusiasts would do something like that.

Well, I’ll stick with my Fenix 5 (overkill for my use case) and wait for Google to hopefully eat Suunto’s lunch after recent aqusition.

@ursoos said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

And then Suunto releases watch without even ability to add define intervals and complex workouts.

You can easily combine Suunto’s own app or Sporty Go, if you require sensors, with a third party timer like Timerro – they all can run in parallel. The latter lets you define intervals and structured workouts of any complexity, with any number of steps. It has ambient display (i.e. low-power one not eating the battery much yet giving you all info, runs and buzzes in the background, with an ability to define intervals both on the watch app and a phone companion). Sure, it’s not perfect, but it works just fine.

Had an hour long session this morning, with Sporty Go paired to Polar OH1 sensor and Timerro running through a fairly complex workout, the battery drain was less than 20%. Drop the watch on the charger while showering, and you are set to go afterwards as if nothing happened.

wait for Google to hopefully eat Suunto’s lunch after recent aqusition.

If you mean Fitbit I suggest you don’t hold your breath. Their offering, even in the high end Ionic, is so behind what Suunto has put out right from the gate, it’s not even funny. And no decent third party alternatives like Sporty Go or Timerro exist.

ursoos

@NickK said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

@ursoos said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

And then Suunto releases watch without even ability to add define intervals and complex workouts.

You can easily combine Suunto’s own app or Sporty Go, […] Sure, it’s not perfect, but it works just fine.
I will rather buy another Garmin instead of trying to work with third parties and trying to bridge the obvious basic missing feature in $500 “sports” watch.

I’m just frustrated - had such high hopes

@NickK said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

@ursoos said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

wait for Google to hopefully eat Suunto’s lunch after recent acquisition.

If you mean Fitbit I suggest you don’t hold your breath. Their offering, even in the high end Ionic, is so behind what Suunto has put out right from the gate, it’s not even funny. And no decent third party alternatives like Sporty Go or Timerro exist.

Oh, I’m sure Fitbit sucks, but I hope Google will improve it. This acquisition looks like Google’s desperate move to finally build decent WearOS competition for Apple Watch.

It’s funny how Garmin producing crazy overpriced watches can still have so few alternatives if you have an Android phone.

@ursoos said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

This acquisition looks like Google’s desperate move to finally build decent WearOS competition for Apple Watch.

I’m a bit baffled by that purchase simply because I don’t see any way Wear OS can run on the range of devices Fitbit is producing, nor Fitbit OS scale up to the current Wear OS hardware. There are some aspects of Fitbit platform that are gems like coaching, social, and sleep analysis, but even absorbing this is going to be hard

Whatever strategy they have in mind is unlikely to produce anything any time soon.

ursoos

@NickK said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

@ursoos said in S7 roadmap: what are Suunto plans here?:

This acquisition looks like Google’s desperate move to finally build decent WearOS competition for Apple Watch.

I’m a bit baffled by that purchase simply because I don’t see any way Wear OS can run on the range of devices Fitbit is producing, nor Fitbit OS scale up to the current Wear OS hardware. There are some aspects of Fitbit platform that are gems like coaching, social, and sleep analysis, but even absorbing this is going to be hard

Whatever strategy they have in mind is unlikely to produce anything any time soon.

Fair point man!
I hope they will axe most of the lineup and come up with one killer device like Google Pixel phone which is weird, but at the same time brilliant. In the meantime, we should stick with what’s on the market.

Manuel Silvestri

Any idea if the item #10 in the list of @NickK will be implemented soon (I really really hope…I won’t sell again a Suunto after two months)?? I mean…even the S3 has these features and it is half the price!

@Manuel-Silvestri Public road map from Suunto would be appreciated. Even Microsoft is public today.

Manuel Silvestri

@Urban-Olofsson I was meaning about VO2 max and other related features…but ok, also your suggestion would be usefull

JANTIKAINEN

I hope they would add at least,

External Sensor Support for Suunto wear app
Route import and guidance
The FirstBeat metrics

For the External Sensor Support when using Suunto Wear, am I the only one who would be using the Smart Sensor memory function? This is the main reason why it’s the number 1 feature in my list to be added.
I’m playing basket ball and can’t wear the watch while playing. I’d say the same thing would apply with other team sports.
Team sports are anyway widely represented when selecting sport modes in the watch.

jthomi

Public roadmap was often discussed here, but not official word from Suunto and I think there will be no roadmap in the future, or ever.

@JANTIKAINEN
I also think external sensor support is crucial. I for example have my Spartan watch strapped to the handlebar while mountainbiking. So there are many reasons to have this feature.

Liam Larkin

@Brad_Olwin Hi Brad you mention #1 External sensors support: Heart Rate is available in other apps, can you please tell me which apps use the memory function as I have purchased one in the last 2 weeks for swimming and can not find an app using the memory function. Thanks Liam

@Liam-Larkin None. I think to this day, the memory function is really vendor specific feature, i.e. Polar will support offline recording for their OH1 or H10 sensors, but nothing else.

Liam Larkin

@NickK Thanks Nick, bit naughty by Suunto advertising a smart sensor with memory but no way of using the memory!

@Liam-Larkin I don’t think they ever said said sensor works with Suunto 7, let’s be clear about that. In fact, the manual doesn’t mentions sensors at all. What we have in third party apps like Sporty Go is a standard BLE sensor stuff, courtesy of Wear OS. Memory most definitely would have been a vendor specific feature.

Who knows? Maybe Suunto relents and adds sensors to 7? Maybe even memory. But as of now, nothing like this is available.

Brad_Olwin

@Liam-Larkin @NickK is correct, no third party apps will support the memory function of the smart belt. I think Suunto knows this is a weak point for the S7, use in ball games, biking with the watch on the handlebars and other sports, even skiing where you might want the watch outside on a jacket. Since this is obvious I would not be surprised if Suunto has something in the works.