Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

northeast_trekker

@sky-runner actually I forgot that the main consideration for live segments for Suunto might not be hardware limitations but actually how they get the segments into the Suunto watches. If I recall only Garmin, Wahoo, and Polar have these and they likely have to pay Strava for the API/data sharing on the native apps. So it might actually be more of a calculated ROI decision than a hardware limitation at present; I suspect a lot of S9 users are also into strava segments so honestly it seems like a no brainer to me but then again I’m not a market research analyst so I might not know all the facts…in terms of sheer count of units sold I think Garmin v Suunto (for example) is very different so that might have something to do with this particular type of feature.

pavel.samokha

@northeast_trekker to me personally it’s interesting if those who want strava segments on the watch are willing to pay subscription fee for such feature, and how much?
I assume subscription would benefit all parties - users who need segments, users who don’t, strava, suunto.

TonyG

@pavel-samokha I enjoy competing with myself using strava segments but I wouldn’t pay anymore than I already do, to have them live on my watch, I am happy to wait until I look at my transferred data to see how I have done! Having to pay third party companies to get the best out of my watch would be a put off for me, kinda already is.
might be slightly off topic but also slightly on-topic:
It already urks / niggles me that this was the proposed / suggested route suunto was taking when they shut down movescount, and some folk suggested we pay third party companies to get some of the analysis / information that we would be loosing when movescount was shut down, and I have in fact had to do that with strava, I would have considered paying suunto the fee i pay to strava to keep the web based movescount and the information / analysis it provided: (Maybe)! no doubt I still would have been upset to have to pay a subscription to suunto to get the best out of a product that I already paid for!!! tricky one regardless…

MiniForklift

@pavel-samokha said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@northeast_trekker to me personally it’s interesting if those who want strava segments on the watch are willing to pay subscription fee for such feature, and how much?

I don’t know if many would pay a fee if they’re already available on other watches at no additional charge? My training partner switched from his S9B to the Garmin Enduro and the Enduro have live segments for Strava was one of the main reasons. I think it’s cool but for me personally it wouldn’t be enough to make me want to switch brands

sky-runner

@miniforklift Right, there is no additional fee. Strava premium subscription covers that already.

As someone who uses Strava live segments on a Garmin watch regularly, I wanted to mention that the implementation, sadly, leaves a lot to be desired. I am primarily a trail runner, and live segments are extremely unreliable on trails. For a long live segment, a probability of my Fenix dropping of it somewhere in a middle is nearly 100%. Plus, Strava restricts downhill segments from being synced to devices, and downhill means anything more than negative 0.25%, which is pretty ridiculous for running. It seems Strava had implemented that restriction because of a couple tragic incidents involving cyclists, but they blindly extended the same restriction to all sports.

pavel.samokha

@miniforklift said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

I don’t know if many would pay a fee if they’re already available on other watches at no additional charge?

I assume that there is always additional charge for functions like this - manufacturers should pay Strava for live segments, there is no free breakfast.
So this price is either included into the watch price for all customers (vast majority of them doesn’t care about strava segments) or only users who really need the feature pay some additional subscription fee for that.

DMytro

By the way, EU now considers making 7 years of software updates or at least security updates mandatory for all phones. It’s only a matter of time that something similar comes up for sport- and smartwatches. Thus, I think, payments for updates are inevitable.

freeheeler

@dmytro said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

EU now considers making 7 years of software updates

this would be a great step for sustainability

Kostas Zinelis

It would be nice to a future S9 baro firmware to have the option:

to calibrate the compass during an exercise (because on many occasions I’ve witnessed discallibrations during long hikes and open swimming exercises).
to go back to main face during an exercise (because some info like date cannot be shown at any exercise face)

DMytro

@kostas-zinelis maybe it would be better/easier to implement if the date would be shown during pause instead? HR, time, duration are already accessible during a pause.

Frederic

@miniforklift said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

Sorry, I was meaning to have the option to have battery percentage as a data field on an activity screen

I do have it showing on my daily watchface

It would be great but until that is implemented (and if it is…), what I do is that I start unlocking my watch (except I don’t) and the unlocking screen shows the current battery percentage

DMytro

http://www.awsode.com/case-suunto.html
This was never implemented, was it?

suzzlo

@dmytro never seen that in my Spartan, but who knows, the design is still valid

BR

MiniForklift

@frederic Same. At least it is accessible, would just be nice to have it visible without having to press any buttons

Stas Varazhbit

@dmytro said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

http://www.awsode.com/case-suunto.html
This was never implemented, was it?

Turns out Suunto was addressing the issue of interval training for the Spartan series back in 2017, but never implemented it. That’s too bad. But there’s still hope.

freeheeler

@stas-varazhbit

I’m holding on to my S9B, sending it in for button repair today and hope that the lock function in watch mode will be implemented some day
I don’t use structured intervals very often, but I see the sense for having it

DMytro

@freeheeler they just return you a watch with no buttons - problem solved XD

freeheeler

@dmytro
hopefully not… just learned that it will take minimum 3 weeks…
don’t know how to survive that!!

MiniForklift

Maybe Suunto is working on a Christmas ‘button lock’ update just for freeheeler

Frederic

@miniforklift Yes and sharks will start to leave in trees too