Nov transition update
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@Ahlqvist add a manual activity?
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Okay, if Movescount keeps route planning for now then that may be a sufficient stop gap until I can justify the cost of switching to a Garmin, but ultimately it’s still a big question mark of ongoing support as Suunto could just pull the plug on support for that at any moment. Sure, I could trust that Suunto won’t do that but with past behaviours a good indicator of future behaviours I do not trust Suunto as a company, and they very much do not seem to have end users experience in mind with their decisions, so I do not trust that this will stay forever. It’s still going to lead to a crap user experience if I have to create, download, upload etc. This is a premium product with a very bargain basement experience.
I have registered for your site but I’m not really sure it adds much for me unfortunately as the real power of Movescount is/was the all in one place of heat map/route creation/POI’s/analysis etc. I just can’t understand Suunto’s decision to move away from a desktop application because no matter how good the App is, it’s still tracing out routes and doing stuff on a crappy little iPhone screen. A phone is handy for doing stuff outside, or checking up something while not in a position to use a proper computer. For everything else a proper computer/big screen is just infinitely better.
Similarly with POI’s. This isn’t aimed personally at you, but as the only person at Suunto who seems to care about the outward perception of the brand amongst consumers I’ll say it to you anyway; POI’s have been on the to do list for the App for well over a year. It’s been promised since long before I joined this forum as ‘coming soon’. What should make me believe this new report of ‘soon’ or ‘October’? Past performance indicates that Movescount will be blocked from communicating with my device long before POI’s are added in via the App. This is an absolutely ridiculous state of affairs given that I bought the watch because it had the POI functionality. Without it I may as well throw it in the bin. Do I trust that it’s going to be within the next few weeks, or do I stump up a further ridiculous amount of money for a Garmin to regain this functionality that I have already bought?
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@Ennoch just to make sure and perhaps help here.
With POIS are we talking about POI POIS right
? Not waypoints on a route correct? ( a little sanity check sorry) …And at what platform are you on (Android / iOS ) ?
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Yeah, advanced creation of POI’s as standalone navigation points which are not part of a route (i.e. I know where I’m aiming for but want a marker for an escape gully off the route of a mountain, or a hut, or an avalanche box etc). I use these all the time when I need to know the location of something but could be coming at it from any direction and thus am not interested in a pre-plotted route to get there. POI POIS in other words!
I’m running iOS.
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@Ennoch said in Nov transition update:
I’m running iOS.
I ll stay on this. I cannot “safely predict when pois come to iOS”. I could hint you regarding my team though (Android) and I kinda did (could have been more specific).
I am sorry
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Wow, just wow, I still can’t believe Suunto are pushing so hard for the removal of a platform while not providing users with an at least comparable replacement - it’s simply bullying tactics and I don’t respond well to behaviours like that, not when I’m invested either financially or emotionally. Interestingly under the Amer Sports banner sit Mavic, Arcteryx and Salomon, three other brands I have a number of products from. Not purchasing any more Mavic stuff is no great loss as they haven’t made anything particularly impressive for a good number of years, but Salomon and Arcteryx are disappointing; luckily there are enough decent alternatives. Because this attitude clearly comes from above Suunto I will simply look at the list of companies owned by Amer and avoid them all in future.
I know that as a developer you’re simply delivering what the company decides is its priorities, and to be honest I think that is unfair on you that you end up dealing with the flak from Suunto’s ridiculous decisions. Is the iOS app development really that far behind Android?
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@Ennoch you own a Spartan if I understood correctly right ?
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Yes, it’s a Spartan Ultra.
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And if any
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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No, the interval workout feature. It’s labelled “Workout” in the watch menu and is one of my most used functions.
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What are options for people like me not using phone with ios/android?
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Have you decided what to do with your loyalty codes? Are you gonna buy Suunto watch right now to replace the old one or are you gonna wait until new products are released?
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@dulko79
New Suunto 7 with 4100+ chip could be a winner for me. An improved battery is what could be crucial in my choice. According to what I read on the forum suunto 7 could suit my needs. But can we be sure that the new line will come out before the loyalty offer expires? I think I will wait a little longer and monitor the situation on the market. -
@DavorP I think loyalty codes are only for current products, not for the future ones. It is either buying current watches at good prices or investing more money in new hardware/software later.
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@dulko79
Yes, you are right. I see now on Suunto page the models to which the offer relates are listed.
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@DavorP said in Nov transition update:
@dulko79
Yes, you are right. I see now on Suunto page the models to which the offer relates are listed.
I think I’ll wait anyway…Thanks, I haven’t seen that.
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@dulko79 Loyalty, shmoyalty! Even with a 30% discount (or whatever the figure is, I forget) I’m not giving Suunto any more money after they axed much of the functionality that drove my decision to buy my first Suunto watch. Which is also my last. As of almost two months ago I’m a happy Coros Vertix user.
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@RiphRaph said in Nov transition update:
@dulko79 Loyalty, shmoyalty! Even with a 30% discount (or whatever the figure is, I forget) I’m not giving Suunto any more money after they axed much of the functionality that drove my decision to buy my first Suunto watch. Which is also my last. As of almost two months ago I’m a happy Coros Vertix user.
Since you are still here, I think all of us would be happy to know what is the experience of coros (Also app based) vs suunto. In a separate thread
I’ve seen some reviews and they seem interesting.On my side I am checking. S9B can be an option, but I will wait to see prices of other brands black friday.
Last year on Portugal we got Fenix 5 at 299eur (today 329eur), S9B with 30% is 350eur, coros in also between 300 and 500eur…
Don’t know. I think I will try the S9B after black friday and if I don’t like I return it.
So far from the reviews nothing triggers me much attention as the ambit 2 did back in the day.edit: for those who are in the us and want to buy coros, here is a good hint
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@RiphRaph S9 baro black at 350 € or just over 400 € for Titanium seems a good deal if you are satisfied with functions that come on board. I guess S9 is also not at the end of lifetime. If I am not wrong it was mentioned in another thread that watches will be supported till the hardware allows it. Any new Suunto watch that comes in the future will need some time for bugs to be fixed plus price tag will be much higher. Another option is to wait for Black Friday what competition will offer.
