Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

zhang965

@TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@zhang965
why is ssu and s9 aweful?
do you like the a3ps design better?

A3ps is the best of ambit line, but it’s in past, as a famous suunto community manager said, ssu s9 are not ambit.

You cannot interpret ambit with s9’s logic, ambit3p is the best and s9 is the best as well- in different lines.

The distance between software and hardware makes ssu s9 awful.

johann.fuehrer

@TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@zhang965
why is ssu and s9 aweful?
do you like the a3ps design better?

he said awful - not ugly!

the design of the A3 & A2 is — ähm, unconventional (yes, they are ugly) but the SSU and S9 are also not eye candy. But this is different topic …

freeheeler

@johann-fuehrer
I actually like the a3ps design with the brushed silverish ring and buttons and the external gps chip! and it is hopelessly comfy, too

zhang965

Nowadays the companies release a unfinished product is a common strategy, ssu’s development was a mess, three years later I’m still feeling ssu is not completed.

And s9, I mean that the moment you know it will be hardly completed again,

freeheeler

@zhang965
for distance, alti and some more issues I would still hasitate to upgrade to S9… but I think this could be an option once the dust has settled

freeheeler

@zhang965
product is finish with improvements and immediately goes phase out
strange strategy…
but I think with my phone it’s different. I choose Sony Xperia as they seem to be deeply tested and have very… veeery few bugs
…and the frequency of releasing phones is higher than watches. but then Sony is much bigger and amount of sold phones hundret times more…

johann.fuehrer

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos whom to talk to to close this thread? Statler and Waldorf occupied this as well so it makes no more sense for others to keep it alive …

zhang965

@johann-fuehrer you can delete it by your own

freeheeler

@johann-fuehrer
no, leave it open, it is not under SA and gives room for some philosophic chats, I appreciate that!
by all the “this and that is missing and not working” I need some info that could convince me to buy an s9 one day instead of getting scared to ever take a step ahead again…

johann.fuehrer

@TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

@johann-fuehrer
no, leave it open, it is not under SA and gives room for some philosophic chats, I appreciate that!
by all the “this and that is missing and not working” I need some info that could convince me to buy an s9 one day instead of getting scared to ever take a step ahead again…

I don’t want a philosophic chat, I wanted to know from users what their pro/cons of the S9BARO are.
And this thread is now the usual “Suunto does not right and do not listen” stuff. Make an own thread for this … You will have at least one guy posting there. Sorry.

freeheeler

@johann-fuehrer
my takeaway of this threat is:
today my ambit us right for me.
tomorrow, s9b will be my watch when the following is optimized:
gps accuracy (for distance)
baro accuracy (for alti)
lighting will be hard to fix with existing hardware… but if the screen is good to read in bright sunlight i’m fine

now you can close it

Saketo Nemo

@TELE-HO
screen is a transreflective, perfectly readable in sunlight. More is bright, more it’s readable.
GPS accuracy: actually isn’t so bad, indeed, and will se if next fw release brings gps enhancement.
baro accuracy: I do a lot of mountain and in correspondence of the known altitude, s9 is always precise, better than SSU. I also have some pictures about it, if you are interested.

johann.fuehrer

@TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

now you can close it

Did not manage how to close it … So let’s go on. I’ve seen a lot other of valid pros and cons here …

suzzlo

@johann-fuehrer I could close it for you… if its what you want… and I don’t think is that you want

sealion.hr

Have been using S9B in last 6 months. I am doing following sports: running (half marathon), crosstraining, trail running, hiking in mountains, stand up paddling. Thus consider myself average active hobby athlete. My first watch was Ambit1 then Spartan HR baro and finally S9B.
Neutral:

people often complain on HR monitor on watch. For me it is clear that with present technology watch HR is only an emergency rescue when not having external one. I always happily use my Scosche Rhythm24

Pros:

as 50 yrs old I really appreciate large 50mm screen
readability in light is excellent (SSWHRB also)
sapphire glass (reason I changed from SSWHRB were battery life and sapphire as mineral glass could be easily scratched which happened to me)
excellent support for Stryd (unlike Garmin)
accuracy is top
does not have million bells and whistles BUT has all it takes to do the sports (unlike Garmin, but you pay for it hefty price tag). Old wisdom: less is more
have titanium version and appreciate large buttons (some folks do not). During activity I always confidently know which button I pressed (unlike SSWHRB)

Cons:

readability at dusk/night when running. Pushing middle button activates light but immediately switches screen. Would prefer just turning light on and then with next press-switching the screen
would be a nice touch to have countdown tones when doing interval training (recently sent proposal to Suunto)
no customisable watch face. Example: when going into sea for fun (no activity) would like to have temperature on watch face.
Now you have to scroll through menu to get it (not so easy). Seeing temperature activates also HR monitor which is totally useless in that situation
I am angry on Suunto for not giving all capabilities of S5 to S9 as a flagship watch. I understand it is meant for different target groups BUT one day I might decide to go for some new S?? and give S9B to my wife or son for example. They need S5 features but they are not present at S9 ( Suunto thinks I should work only to buy their watches). Buy giving these features, Suunto and I would have a win-win situation
Takeaway: I am a very happy S9B user and recommend the watch.

freeheeler

@morskilav
I like the Titanium’s design, too.
let’s see what suunto wants to tell us in October…

Saketo Nemo

@morskilav
I am not sure that the functions of S5 will not be brought to S9. Someone on the forum has hinted at the opposite. So I think your wife will be happy

countdown tones in interval training: nice to have !

temperature: all the temperature sensors take a long time (about 10m in swimming pool) to settle on the current temperature. Try it out or go to see a temperature graph of a swim.
The greater the time, the greater the delta temperature between the current one, perceived by the watch, to the real one, of the water. I don’t know how useful what you say can be: you should be in the water really a lot to get a correct figure. And if you risk giving an incorrect data, better not give it. That’s why I never look at the temperature in watch mode from my s9baro.

Òscar-gg

@morskilav Fully agree with all the pros and cons you mentioned. I would add the possibility to add a tone when navigating and following a track to inform to switch direction

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@morskilav Hey little tips here.

For the little without switching screen hold a tiny bit the middle button.

Regarding the S5 vs S9 features everyone agrees with you but but but who knows (and I stop talking here as my NDA will be activated)

Saketo Nemo

@Òscar-gg
You said well, possibility. I wouldn’t want them, for example. I prefer alarms for off tracks, rather than alarms to keep me constantly on track. too exhausting