I'm I the only who believes Suunto 9 is more of a SIDEGRADE than UPGRADE to Ambit 3 peak?

freeheeler

@mario_b
I’ve got only few installed… but the first one listed I find priceless:

5min ascent rate (average of the last 5minutes ascent rate in meters per HOUR (!)…)
ascent rate (transforms the normal ascent rate from m/min to m/h)
hill grade live (shows how steep in percent you are climbing, for cycling)
swissgrid x/y (swiss coordinste system)
DH counter (for skiing, started using it for trials as we started skiing with the kids on the slopes, I went only backcountry until last year, will use this app more serious next season)
not inuse at the moment: hours until sunrise/sunset at your last gps signals location

there are many more… like tonns of them
you remind me that I long ago wanted to scroll thru usefull apps again

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@TELE-HO apps can solve a big part of the problem. From race prediction to cooper test etc

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@TELE-HO I can even imagined a load app and adds an extra screen to your watch. Id love that

Bulkan

I´ve been so close to buy and Ambit 3 because the apps… I’ve reading and playing with the simulator…

Drills when I’m swimming are missed… yes and nobody’s swim here… or what?

This being said, today exploring a new zone, created a route in the suunto app, transferred to my watch (dreaming about the POI but knowing that are coming), the navigation was perfect, ETA… When I’m traveling I don’t carry the laptop… so it is very easy to use.

The UI of the Suunto 9 is very clean, the screen is gorgeous.

I hope one day we could have, even vía partners, synced plans of training and structured workouts.

But I agree with the statement “Ambit is over, Suunto 9 is the present and rocks”

Bulkan

@TELE-HO

Imagine:

RSS running.
Running effectiveness.
Race calculator
Stryd app with all the data, even the new one is coming in the new Stryd.
Gradient left.
ratio power/heartbeat
structured workout

mario_b

@TELE-HO sounds good. i just read the docu of it. and tryed to write a few. it’s really ease to use. and much they’ve added much functions and variables.

not inuse at the moment: hours until sunrise/sunset at your last gps signals location

can you add them to non sports profiles too?

freeheeler

@mario_b
I don’t think so, never tried…

mario_b

@TELE-HO ah! i understood that wrong. i thought you mean, you can display the hours for example to sunrise on the watch display without being in an activity.
greetings from the country neighbour right next to yours.

zhang965

@TELE-HO I have 0 app on my ambit 3

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Exactly, a lot of requirements and customization can be solved via apps. I miss the apps…

@mario_b you can found a lot at the Suunto Apps Library and also make your own code: http://www.movescount.com/apps for your A3P.

mario_b

@flypg i know, thanks, i allready read the documentary for it and scripted a few. for example, heart rate zones depending on my lactate threshold with alarm. as working as a system admin, its kind of a quick and easy option to script yourself what you want.

chrish

So just an anecdotal backing of the Ambit3 series.

Coming from ABC watches like the Essential, I started in GPS watch land with an Ambit3 Vertical then switched to the Spartan Sport WHR Baro. Vertical was a GPS nightmare. But apps and onboard POI were nice features and I very much missed them moving to the Spartan. With Movescount going away in 12+ months and no guarantee or specifics about what will and won’t be supported, I just bought an Ambit3 Peak today. I can get it configured in the hopes that it’ll be supported. But if it never gets full support in the Suunto App, at a minimum I’ll have it app-ed up in the next 12 months and I can also navigate without a phone app or any syncing by using the POI feature on the watch. IMO, it’s the only Suunto product that truly can meet this particular use-case and it can pretty much do it and never be connected to a phone app or the web by using it stand alone.

Could have bought an S9 at 3 times the price. But given my usage, the Ambit3 is still going to be the superior device until I see more commitment from Suunto for true back-country use rather than sport/training analysis.

The Spartan is going to be relegated to less that Fitbit status as a HR capable fitness tracker. And my Suunto Essential will still be my daily driver.

The market is ripe for some company to take all of Suunto/Garmin’s backpacking, hiking, mountaineering business.

freeheeler

@zhang965
yes, you’re using your watch as a jewellery to look good, not for sports… you don’t need apps to look good
sarcastic mode off:

I was surprised when I listed my apps for Mario how few apps I actually use, but I know that they’re there (still… hope to be continued in SA…???) and if I miss anything I search for it and maybe copy and adapt it… I will never program it myself… I saw the instruction, I tried, I awefully failed… I’m too stupid for that stuff… I’m a mechanical engineer, I’m used to gears and threads…
But to have the possibility to create an app that simply converts a (for me) useless unit of m/min into m/h is really really great!! …when I’m tired of skinning a new track in deep pow, I am not able to calculate m/min -> m/h…

freeheeler

@chrish
I agree a 1’000+ times with you!
There is simply nothing to add

mario_b

@TELE-HO when you look for an app that you can’t find but’s possible to make. hit me a message.

freeheeler

@mario_b
I will, thank you!

I was also thinking of asking some IT guys I know if they see a possibility of creating what I want… because what I know from software so far is not much… but what I know: everything is possible… it’s just about the amount of lines and knowing the language/code.

freeheeler

@TELE-HO said in I'm I the only who believes Suunto 9 is more of a SIDEGRADE than UPGRADE to Ambit 3 peak?:

creating what I want…

I mean in the relation to a MC/SA alternative or self made combination…

estevez

@mario_b said in I'm I the only who believes Suunto 9 is more of a SIDEGRADE than UPGRADE to Ambit 3 peak?:

which “apps” are you all using on the ambit?

Sunrise/Sunset
Vertical Speed in m/h
Average vertical speed (m/h) (30s)
Real-time hill incline %
ClimbRate
GPS quality (signal strength)
GPS State
Time to Waypoint
Heart rate in %
ORTHOSTATIC HR TEST

@zhang965 said in I'm I the only who believes Suunto 9 is more of a SIDEGRADE than UPGRADE to Ambit 3 peak?:

s9 is more adapted for nowadays.

It isn’t more adapted to nowdays. Can you name any feature that makes it more adapted to nowdays for serious athletes that A3P doesn’t have? It is more marketable for nowdays with features that look better in advertisement materials. And that works - at least that made me buy it even though I had a perfectly working A3P which just needed a new strap.

zhang965

@silentvoyager
I don’t get you.

Marketing elements are important as well,
We are buying what we want, not what we need.

I have a3p ssu s9b, when I bought the ssu, it was sucking , even today,. My ssu sucks, but I still bought a s9b which has a ugly gps about 6 months.

For me s9 still has firmware support, and a3p is ended.
It’s why I moved to another watch