S9 Baro Wishlist

Mi_chael

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
Perhaps in the next firmware update?
Any news about contents and timeline?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Mi_chael, to be honest, these features that @stromdiddily mentions are not raised to much (asked by users) if you get my point. However they sound like good improvements.

I suppose May as usual for Suunto no?

stromdiddily

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

kida of a realistic wishlist if we would exclude the gesture

Curious as to why no gesture? Feature is available on the Apex and I believe on the 935 so it’s definitely doable.

Honestly I didn’t think it would be that great of a feature until I started wearing the Apex for my early morning runs…

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@stromdiddily its not per say easy and some users can object. I have no say in this though.

That is just my observation.

stromdiddily

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I would never say it is easy

GingerBeardMan

At the very least, it would be nice to push a button during an activity that turns on the backlight without doing anything else. Like the 1st press of the middle button turns on the backlight, after that it changes the screen

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@GingerBeardMan for now try to hold the middle button shortly. It will promptly show the options circle but will light up the screen and not go to the next

General_Witt

Compass needs to be removed from custom sport modes if the user wishes so. Imho it should be an absolute priority for all the indoor sports athletes.

stromdiddily

@General_Witt you mean the mandatory breadcrumb screen? I don’t run inside very often but just noticed that you seem to be stuck w it even if you use the treadmill activity.

Will add it to my list

My wishlist would include:

A dedicated waypoint navigation screen like in Ambit3 with waypoint name, bearing, distance on route, ETE, etc
Dedicated button for backlight (e.g. ability to customize the lower button that I almost never use for laps)
Navigation zoom available in locked mode
Zoom (changing scale) for custom graphs while in exercise
Ability to activate/deactivate the breadcrumbs screen - don’t want to have to scroll through it during 90% of my activities.
Adjustable watch face timeout in non-activity mode (e.g. I want to be able to observe altitude or HR outside of exercise without the watch switching back to watchface after one minute).
Easily accessible recovery time graph on watch (like in Ambit3, not buried too deep in the menu).
Vo2max estimate on watch.
Allow more than 3 screens in custom sport mode.

savvase

A perfect wish list i sure hope that suunto is listening and they are willing in making this wish list into reality.

General_Witt

@stromdiddily Exactly, I cannot understand why the breadcrumb is mandatory and not automatically deactivated for all indoor sports, like indoor cycling. It has discouraged me from creating custom sport modes, I still use the factory ones that have data fields I’m not interested in.

@General_Witt said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

@stromdiddily Exactly, I cannot understand why the breadcrumb is mandatory and not automatically deactivated for all indoor sports, like indoor cycling. It has discouraged me from creating custom sport modes, I still use the factory ones that have data fields I’m not interested in.

Yeah, the UX was clearly designed by someone who wasn’t a heavy user of previous models of Suunto watches and not an endurance athlete themselve.

I’d guess one reason is that breadcrumbs screen provides access to navigation features like compass and POIs, and even if your activity doesn’t normally use GPS it might still need navigation features. Second, there isn’t really a good distinction between indoor and outdoor sports in Spartan and S9. The GPS mode used to be a part of sport configuration in earlier models, and you could setup your sport with GPS off. But in latest models GPS mode is moved out from sport to battery mode, so in theory you can go to battery mode in any sport, even treadmill, and create a custom battery mode with GPS on. I think whether navigation is on by default should be a part of custom sport configuration - that would make sense. Similarly the default GPS mode should still be a part of sport customization, and that battery mode should come up by default when starting that sport mode.

General_Witt

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Is the mandatory breadcrumb watchface in indoor sports acknowledged by the dev team as a bug? Will it be addressed some time in the future?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@General_Witt is a bug

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@silentvoyager I might take the chance to introduce you to our UX that are endurance athletes. Eveyone has an opinion but these speculations in our forums I wont tolerate

In regards:

Yeah, the UX was clearly designed by someone who wasn’t a heavy user of previous models of Suunto watches and not an endurance athlete themselve.

Yellow card

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

@silentvoyager I might take the chance to introduce you to our UX that are endurance athletes. Eveyone has an opinion but these speculations in our forums I wont tolerate

In regards:

Yeah, the UX was clearly designed by someone who wasn’t a heavy user of previous models of Suunto watches and not an endurance athlete themselve.

Yellow card

OK, point taken. I apologize. I still think Ambit UX is more functional.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@silentvoyager no problem its not about the apology it’s about keeping a fair spirit here.

I do understand that the UX can be better, I dont argue…

Brad_Olwin

@silentvoyager said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

@General_Witt said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

@stromdiddily Exactly, I cannot understand why the breadcrumb is mandatory and not automatically deactivated for all indoor sports, like indoor cycling. It has discouraged me from creating custom sport modes, I still use the factory ones that have data fields I’m not interested in.

Yeah, the UX was clearly designed by someone who wasn’t a heavy user of previous models of Suunto watches and not an endurance athlete themselve.

Hmmm. I did not design any of this but I am certainly an endurance athlete an like the UI a lot. The breadcrumb screen in custom indoor modes is a bug. I disagree with you on the rest

@Brad_Olwin said in S9 Baro Wishlist:

Hmmm. I did not design any of this but I am certainly an endurance athlete an like the UI a lot. The breadcrumb screen in custom indoor modes is a bug. I disagree with you on the rest

It is OK to disagree, I agree to disagree. This new UX was designed with touch first in mind - everything is big and information density is generally low, for example often we see a screen with just one large number on it, and to see another number you have to swipe or touch the screen. But touch just doesn’t work well in outdoors environment when it may rain or your fingers may be frozen or sweaty, or dirty, or you may wear gloves. Suunto later recognized that and now disables touch by default during exercises, but the touch optimized UX remains. Second, because of the touch-first design only 3 hardware buttons remained, and all of them are pretty much reserved during an exercise - one for stop/resume, another for lap, and the middle one for changing through the screens. That makes it very difficult to implement any operations on the watch with just buttons beyond bare basics. There several workarounds in Spartan UX, but they are inconsistent. For example, context menu is usually invoked via the middle button long press, but on mandatory navigation screen - lower button is used. All those silly workaround to trigger backlight is another example. The lack of the “view” button makes it pretty much impossible to rotate through alternative views like changing navigation views without piling all possible navigation view in the main rotation of displays (that’s what Spartan UX does by adding route profile).