Race 3S & Race 3 rumours
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@André-Faria I agree with you; there is no need for a hardware update every year. Focus on technology that can last a long time, is stable and adds paid features if needed. Just like a mobile app. You announce a new watch and deliver the same issues in a different way, rather than giving solutions.
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@withManish at the moment Suunto does seem to offer any paid subscription services for their watches. hence, I assume, they sell watches and they (need to) make money out of them so their offering needs to be somehow competitive and drive demand.
Now we are probably talking about strategy here, but the reality is that we need some fixes to our watches .I don’t really care about every single feature out there but I need the device to be rock solid in terms of performance .
For instance, I have recently started wearing a g-shock as a daily driver and only train with the suunto vertical … I trust the g-shock won’t fail in its daily thing (e.g. an alarm to ring on time… and not having a concern of the watch entering deep sleep)… those are issues that when left unfixed cause toxic behavior -
@Steven-Hambleton
I would guess that the typical HW development time is 2 years. Then you would have different teams working on different products. I think this is what we see with Garmin and Suunto. If Apple releases new HW every year, they are likely still taking 2+ years for each watch, just running multiple model years in parallel.Suunto seems to follow the normal Agile development approach for software with 2-week sprints and quarterly releases. In my personal view that approach will emphasise regular releases of customer-visible features and give low priority to quality improvements and architectural changes. It does not have to be like that, but it is a common pattern.
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It looks like the summer sales end this Sunday. That might be another indication, perhaps.
One thing I don’t understand is why Suunto would introduce paid AI plans at this stage of the game.
There are countless examples of integrations that are completely free if you have a subscription to an AI service.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/1rowtuz/using_claude_as_a_training_plan_creator_for_my/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coros/comments/1sc6eii/one_month_update_claude_tredict_coros/
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It looks like the summer sales end this Sunday. That might be another indication, perhaps.
One thing I don’t understand is why Suunto would introduce paid AI plans at this stage of the game.
There are countless examples of integrations that are completely free if you have a subscription to an AI service.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/1rowtuz/using_claude_as_a_training_plan_creator_for_my/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coros/comments/1sc6eii/one_month_update_claude_tredict_coros/
To have everything in one place? Have some control about what is suggested?
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It looks like the summer sales end this Sunday. That might be another indication, perhaps.
One thing I don’t understand is why Suunto would introduce paid AI plans at this stage of the game.
There are countless examples of integrations that are completely free if you have a subscription to an AI service.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/1rowtuz/using_claude_as_a_training_plan_creator_for_my/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Coros/comments/1sc6eii/one_month_update_claude_tredict_coros/
I would be willing to pay if it would bring a real benefit. But not at this stage.
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It looks like the summer sales end this Sunday. That might be another indication, perhaps.
One thing I don’t understand is why Suunto would introduce paid AI plans at this stage of the game.
There are countless examples of integrations that are completely free if you have a subscription to an AI service.
It seems as if you are taking rumors for granted…
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More roumors but now it is Run 2: https://gadgetsandwearables.com/2026/07/31/slug-suunto-run-2-fcc-filing/
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More roumors but now it is Run 2: https://gadgetsandwearables.com/2026/07/31/slug-suunto-run-2-fcc-filing/
If there’s a patent, this is more than a rumour.
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@dreamer_ FCC filing is saying something about AI Coach?
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@Gunnar why would it? FCC is about tests needed if a device emits EMR. This is entirely about WiFi, BT and other radio signals and has nothing to do with features or functions.
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@dreamer_ FCC filing is saying something about AI Coach?
No. That information was cached by Google from Suunto’s official site.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Suunto/comments/1v78ze2/suunto_race_3_google_ai_results/
Patents are only hardware related, not software things.
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@Egika perhaps my post was misunderstood. The discussion was about AI Coach. You said that @dreamer_ should not take rumours for granted and @dreamer_ posted a link to the FCC filing and wrote that it is more than rumours. Might be misunderstandings.
I am not sure if one can trust the “cached Google sites”, can be faked or whatever. So everything about AI Coach is for me just rumour. Can be true or not. Time will tell. -
@Gunnar AI coach is a rumor based on smth that was temporary on Suunto website, FCC filling is a different thing and it is for hardware, based on that we know Run 2, Race 3 and Race 3S is most likely coming.
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@matram agree.
Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Suunto deciding to release watches every year if it helps the company improve its financial numbers. After all, Garmin has been doing this for a long time, and now Amazfit is doing it too. Perhaps the 2 year wait does not have any sense if you maintain the older devices. This is also common in other devices like smartphones.
The key should also be to maintain support for older devices for a period of time.
For example, Polar provides 5 years of support:
https://support.polar.com/en/supported-polar-products
And Coros is atill updating the Apex 2 Pro with everything, even their new Climb screens (watch released in 2022):
https://support.coros.com/hc/en-us/articles/20087492454932-COROS-APEX-2-Pro-Release-Notes
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