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      thanasis Bronze Member
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      If the platform is solid , I would definitely go for a subscription.

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        HonzaS @elbee
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        @elbee One of the reasons… Reboots on each ride, poor battery life (half of declared), tons of bugs and yes, phone speaking all the time :-).

        Suunto Vertical 2

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          elbee @HonzaS
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          @HonzaS said:

          @elbee One of the reasons… Reboots on each ride, poor battery life (half of declared), tons of bugs and yes, phone speaking all the time :-).

          Yeh, I also had poor battery life with my garmin 965. The sportgadgetblogger dcrainmaker claimed that satiq (which autoselects gnss settings based in reception) gives good batterylife. Well, when I looked in the fit file, the watch changed gnns like crazy, and I live in the Netherlands which isn’t challenging for gnss. Resulting in 10% battery loss per hour. My race s uses 5% in highest setting.

          And bugs. Lots of bugs. My wife noticed I don’t complain as much about my suunto than I did about the garmin.

          Suunto t3c | Suunto Ambit 3 sport | Tomtom runner 2 | Garmin forerunner 935 | Garmin forerunner 965 | Suunto race s
          Stryd | Bryton Gardia R300L | Polar H9 | Polar oh1+ | Wahoo bolt v2 | 4iiii precision 3

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            matram Bronze Member @elbee
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            @elbee
            I was a beta tester during my two years with a FR965. What irritated me the most was that a lot of the bugs were actually reported during beta testing, but rarely fixed.

            It seemed the focus was always on new features, never making sure they worked correctly.

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              elbee @matram
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              @matram said:

              @elbee
              I was a beta tester during my two years with a FR965. What irritated me the most was that a lot of the bugs were actually reported during beta testing, but rarely fixed.

              It seemed the focus was always on new features, never making sure they worked correctly.

              I was a betatester too!

              Garmin support always asked if the bug was introduced in the latest version of the beta. If not, they refused to look into it.
              They also found a way the discourage people by demanding a movieclip that showed the bug. And if you said that was not possible or didn’t add anything they would say if I wasn’t willing to help, garmin support could do nothing.

              Super frustrating.

              But you managed for 2 years. I sold mine after about a year.

              Suunto t3c | Suunto Ambit 3 sport | Tomtom runner 2 | Garmin forerunner 935 | Garmin forerunner 965 | Suunto race s
              Stryd | Bryton Gardia R300L | Polar H9 | Polar oh1+ | Wahoo bolt v2 | 4iiii precision 3

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                ggrego Bronze Member @elbee
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                Hello I don’t find it very serious race 2 came out 1 year ago and displays the real distance for only 2 weeks it still has a lot of small bugs not to mention the complete restart and there we announce a race 3 😞 we would already like to have a stable race 2 that works properly thank you

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                  aiv4r Silver Members @matram
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                  @matram i am happy that works for you, but trusting AI to stay injury free is a bold move, same as trusting your friend that is kind of into running 🙂 if you are not statistical outlier or unique it might work for you, but I would suggest talking to a real coach or physio.

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                    aiv4r Silver Members @GratefulDeadpan
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                    @GratefulDeadpan same, since I assume AI coach is a software thing, so might be pushed to Suunto app for everyone. My only hope is that it will be unnoticeable like it is now and if one does not need it, cannot even find it 🙂

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                    Suunto Vertical (Titanium Solar Forest)

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                      GratefulDeadpan @aiv4r
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                      @aiv4r said:

                      @GratefulDeadpan same, since I assume AI coach is a software thing, so might be pushed to Suunto app for everyone. My only hope is that it will be unnoticeable like it is now and if one does not need it, cannot even find it 🙂

                      Agredd 100% — I do notice it now though. Would be nice if Suunto Coach was just an on demand thing, like an expandable option for any metric you’re looking at. If Suunto is actually building this I really hope they take note from Google/Fitbit here as their approach with Google Coach is just plain annoying.

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                        matram Bronze Member @aiv4r
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                        @aiv4r
                        Thanks, good advice!

                        I am not blindly trusting AI. I have consulted a physiotherapist. Her advice and Claude had considerable overlap. Claude recommended a few more hamstring-related exercises and training one leg at a time to fix a left / right imbalance. Feels like good advice so far.

                        My impression is that AI coaches (e.g. Garmin) are not good enough, they may actually be dangerous. An LLM trained on all the data out there and with access to your personal data may be more useful if you use it in the right way.

                        Personally I hate subscriptions but I am willing to pay if they are truly useful. But my Claude Pro subscription is about 20 Euro and provides value apart from training. I would not be willing to pay a similar amount for an additional AI service that provides much less value.

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