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    Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?

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    • TieutieuT Offline
      Tieutieu Platinum Member @freeheeler
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      @freeheeler climb v3 update on SV1 would make me happy, that’s the only thing I would need to make my SV1 almost perfect ; actually climb v2 has some big cons. Not sure labels on maps would be readable (it’s a step forward on my SRs, mainly for altitude lines ; for the rest it’s not enough to be a game changer for now, there is not so many place names for instance, neither street/road names).

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        freeheeler @Tieutieu
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        @Tieutieu
        do you mean the S+ climb app?

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          Tieutieu Platinum Member @freeheeler
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          @freeheeler nope I mean climb guidance

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            Found on Reddit

            A Garmin survey about the wish to have a MIP display instead of an AMOLED.

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              sky-runner Platinum Member @Ecki D.
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              MicroLED would be the best alternative in the long term, but not now when MicroLED displays are still very expensive and prioritized for their extreme brightness rather than economy.

              MicoroLED displays have a very broad range of brightness and don’t suffer from burn-in, so they could be used in always on mode without a risk of damage while being more energy efficient than AMOLED. But the technology isn’t fully there yet.

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                Tomas5 Gold Members @sky-runner
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                @sky-runner apple started using tamdem oled in some devices , it is two panel stack on each other. It provides higher brightness and each panel is not so bright by itself so it prevent burn in. But it must be expensive as you need two panels. And not sure about power consumption. But best part of MIP is low power consumption.

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                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Tomas5
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                  @Tomas5 best part of MIP is its transreflective part. Meaning - it looks better when the light is shined on it, like in full sunlight. It doesn’t have to emit light to counter the brightness of the sunny day as the amoled has to.

                  Amoled is cool for smartwatches with rich interfaces, but to me - a sports watch should be a low key augmentation of a workout or outdoors experience.

                  I’m doing sports for the sake of sports or being outside. I don’t need 16 million colors histograms or graphs glaring in my eyes.

                  But yeah. I get it that the mighty market requires amoled.

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                    sky-runner Platinum Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?:

                    best part of MIP is its transreflective part. Meaning - it looks better when the light is shined on it, like in full sunlight. It doesn’t have to emit light to counter the brightness of the sunny day as the amoled has to.

                    MIP is basically LCD - the same technology that was in old fashioned digital watches or in Ambit series. The only difference between MIP is LCD is that in MIP each pixel also have a memory storage (hence MIP = Memory In Pixel).

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                    • AudaxjoeA Offline
                      Audaxjoe @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel I agree but… Amoled is just easier to read - especially for older people. I liked the V1, it was a fantastic watch but the V2 I can read without glasses. And in activities the battery is similar.

                      The reflective screen on the V1 is much better on a bike than the V2.

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                      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                        Łukasz Szmigiel @Audaxjoe
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                        @Audaxjoe maybe… We should ditch the “I have it all” sports watch and take indoor and outdoor series apart 😄

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