Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release)

[Brad_Olwin]

@Josaiplu said in Software Update 2.48.16 (2025 November Rain release):

@mabe2k open beta phases would be the best addition to avoid bug released to the mass imho, already explained this here and there but if suunto conduct such they are only opened to field testers, sound easier to collect valuable feedback rather than complains but lack of large test samples

Be careful what you wish for as Suunto open betas need to be much more stable than the beta versions the field testers use. You would not be happy with the versions we test as there are often significant issues. Several of us post here to help the community and help clarify issues. When firmware is released there are likely minor bugs that no one else caught but the major ones are typically found.
It takes time and resources to post open betas and these likely delay firmware releases so you cannot have it all.
I keep the watches that I purchase on production firmware to follow up on bugs reported by the community. Some issues I can replicate, some I cannot.

[Francesco Pagano]

With this firmware for me the battery drain is the worst ever, unless I unpair the HR monitor after each activity where I use it. So I’ll probably move back to the previous one, and stop bothering with unpair / pair every time I need (without phantom notifications), while suffering from the same battery drain issue I had until November, waiting to see what the next update brings.

[Josaiplu]

@Brad_Olwin it could be an opt in, when you sign for a beta you must be aware that it can cause software instability or even make your device unusable in some aspect
But yes most of the people see beta as a way to have the software features before the others that’s why I say it is difficult to gather valuable feedback from open beta

Btw if they release in January it won’t be a q4 update

[2b2bff]

@Brad_Olwin it doesn’t need to be Beta quality open betas. But I think RCs could be open, so that more bugs could be found and potentially be fixed before the real public release.
Usually a day or two after a release there are bug listed here in the forum. Some easy to fix, some severe.

Some of the bugs found here just hours after release could have been prevented that way.

And for the record I’d rather have bug fixes for all releases and new features just every 6 months, if this could improve software quality and stability of the watch. And possibly of the features…

[OutdoorMan]

@Brad_Olwin and yet there are people willing to participate in order to help the community. Not sure why other brands don’t have a problem with it. I am pretty sure beta testers understand it’s not stable.

[AYHAN YILDIZ]

With this update, battery consumption has almost doubled, while manual SpO₂ measurement has been restricted or effectively disabled.

In short, this was a poorly executed update.

Suunto needs to stop allowing software decisions to undermine the hardware excellence and engineering effort that clearly exists in these devices.

At this point, it feels as though Suunto is actively working against its own loyal customers.

Updates like this do not improve trust — they destroy customer loyalty.

A flagship device should not lose functionality, efficiency, and reliability with software updates.

If this direction continues, Suunto risks turning strong engineering achievements into wasted potential due to software mismanagement.

[sartoric]

@OutdoorMan
well … as they do for the app

[BastMaSVSRS9PP]

I can’t tell from all the negative comments here if it affects a large or just a small portion of users. My watch works perfectly fine.

[Stavrogin]

@BastMaSVSRS9PP Mine also works great. I have definitely had issues in the past and eventually they get fixed.

I love this forum and think it is the best of the big three (Garmin, Suunto and Coros). I know people are upset and as we bring more and more people into the family that are unfamiliar with Suunto this is going to be one of our growing pains. Reddit is a cesspool of “why should I buy a ____” or “I come from Garmin and this is what Suunto should do” posts. For the most part, this forum is for people who love the brand and love the tech. It is an amazing place to celebrate Suunto and how far it has come.

I will say though, I am getting battery drain complain fatigue. I do not discount the sadness it must bring the people it has affected, but I am not sure what countless posts are going to do to solve this problem. If you look up my profile I have also had numerous complaints and I should have been better about reporting that they are fixed when they were.

I am in a very lucky position to be able to try out Garmin’s and very steep discounts and I will say, for all the complaints I hear on here, the Vertical 2 and Race 2 are so much better to use day to day than the new Fenix 8 Pro 51mm. For a watch that isn’t really an upgrade, but rather just a watch with LTE and inReach added, it is buggy, slow and many of the "wonder metrics like Body Battery and Sleep Tracking were less than good. I guess what I am saying is that Suunto has a good product line and they are working through some things, but at the end of the day I feel confident that they will release bug fixes that work soon. Most of us are not doing Ultras in the Winter so while we shouldn’t have to charge super often, it will be okay until spring when we all need the tech to work. (and it seems to be for a majority of people)

[BastMaSVSRS9PP]

@Stavrogin well said sir! Can’t agree more

[Audaxjoe]

Also no issues. I think people with issues are inclined to keep repeating them, as if saying they have an issue again and again will make it go away.

Vertical 2 is a brilliant watch. Just back from circumnavigation if Lanzarote. First multi day use of the watch and it was spot on. Maps super smooth and easy to follow.

The only irritating thing I had was how bright the display is when walking in the dark… Should have changed to dark maps.

[atoponce]

@Stavrogin

Reddit is a cesspool of “why should I buy a ____” or “I come from Garmin and this is what Suunto should do” posts.

As the sole moderator of r/Suunto, I’m interested in feedback on what I can do to make it a better place for Redditors.

[OutdoorMan]

@atoponce I think you cannot make people to use their brain. I used to read reddit posts on Suunto and Coros subreddits, but sometimes they ask questions which could be answered by 1 minute of googling. It’s mind blowing sometimes when someone cannot decide on basic things and instead of investing a bit of time he just plainly asks and is waiting for random people to decide on his behalf. This is why I don’t visit reddit anymore.

[2b2bff]

@atoponce if you compare r/Suunto and r/Garmin, I think Suunto is a bit quieter but the better of the two. I think it is quite good as it is. However, a lot of posts do fit better in the forum or are duplicates of things asked or talk about here… a simple search would help a lot of times…

Also, I don’t get why people downvote others that are telling facts, only because they dislike what they hear? That seems to be a very common theme on Reddit…

[AYHAN YILDIZ]

@BastMaSVSRS9PP What software version are you currently using, and are you able to perform manual SpO₂ measurements via the widget on firmware version 2.48.16?
Because Suunto representatives have stated that this is no longer possible, claiming it was removed for battery optimization and to provide more reliable dat