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    • Kraisun TuntaK Online
      Kraisun Tunta
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      I just got back to Suunto Race 2 and I see the recovery are not the same. What should I do?

      -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
      -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
      -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
      -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
      -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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        OutdoorMan Silver Members @Kraisun Tunta
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        @Kraisun-Tunta nothing, just wait until it’s fixed in the next software update (allegedly).

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          Kraisun Tunta @OutdoorMan
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          @OutdoorMan noted and thank, This topic really needs to be fixed urgently. It’s unbelievable that they’re still leaving it like this without fixing it.

          -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
          -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
          -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
          -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
          -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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            emkei
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            Experiencing the same issue at Suunto Race 2.
            Recovery 28 % watch vs 96 % app
            TSS numbers 111 watch vs 110 app
            Maybe because of the new watch (6 days)?
            And the sleep tracking is really off - reading in a bed, or watching a movie, can easily add 3 hours to the total.
            Synced now, the newest FW.

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              emkei
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              Checked now, morning.
              Suunto Race 2, FW 2.50.26 - synced, refreshed in apps
              W for watch, phone for iOS app, ipad for iPadOS app

              Steps: 2275 W, 2275 phone, 696 ipad
              TSS: 57 W, 55 phone, 55 ipad
              Recovery: 51 W, 79 phone, 80 ipad
              Resources: 91 W, 91 phone, 99 ipad
              HRV (7-day average): 50 W, 49 phone, 49 ipad
              CTL, ATL, TSB: all in line
              Duration (this week): all in line
              Sleep: all in line (but still capturing the book reading as a nap - even resting HR set low)

              Is it just me, or somebody else experience the same weird behaviour?
              This inconsistency pushes me to get another brand.

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              • OutdoorManO Offline
                OutdoorMan Silver Members
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                Yes, I still have the same issue. Now the numbers are way off - 73% vs 57%

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                • Kraisun TuntaK Online
                  Kraisun Tunta
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                  Even with this new firmware, the datat feature still requires a sync to app before showing on the watch. This needs to be calculated on-device just like any other feature like training , sleep, hrv status, training status etc. Having to sync to app defeats the point of having an independent watch.

                  -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
                  -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
                  -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
                  -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
                  -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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                    OutdoorMan Silver Members @Kraisun Tunta
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                    @Kraisun-Tunta I was thinking about the same just yesterday. Let’s say I buy a second watch, do I have to wear it for two weeks to determine my HRV range again? If yes, will it be the same as on watch one? I guess not, so the current logic has a few flaws.

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                      emkei @Kraisun Tunta
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                      @Kraisun-Tunta said in Recovery watch & App:

                      Even with this new firmware, the datat feature still requires a sync to app before showing on the watch. This needs to be calculated on-device just like any other feature like training , sleep, hrv status, training status etc. Having to sync to app defeats the point of having an independent watch.

                      Not sure if I understand you correctly.
                      I thought that basic calculations are happening on the watch, and the more sophisticated ones in the app (therefore, sync is needed).
                      And having the data sync with the app keeps the history and reports possible.
                      However, if I have such different values for metrics like Recovery, TSS, and Resources, those values become unusable. Which ones are the correct ones? And having different values in iOS and iPadOS is even worse (both refreshed) - it should be using server data, right?
                      I have never experienced a difference in values (unit vs app) at other brands. A bit disappointing, especially as I like the HW.

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                        Kraisun Tunta @emkei
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                        @emkei said in Recovery watch & App:

                        @Kraisun-Tunta said in Recovery watch & App:

                        Even with this new firmware, the datat feature still requires a sync to app before showing on the watch. This needs to be calculated on-device just like any other feature like training , sleep, hrv status, training status etc. Having to sync to app defeats the point of having an independent watch.

                        Not sure if I understand you correctly.
                        I thought that basic calculations are happening on the watch, and the more sophisticated ones in the app (therefore, sync is needed).
                        And having the data sync with the app keeps the history and reports possible.
                        However, if I have such different values for metrics like Recovery, TSS, and Resources, those values become unusable. Which ones are the correct ones? And having different values in iOS and iPadOS is even worse (both refreshed) - it should be using server data, right?
                        I have never experienced a difference in values (unit vs app) at other brands. A bit disappointing, especially as I like the HW.

                        I think the concern here is not about advanced analytics, but about basic post-activity summaries that should be available directly on the watch.

                        For example, after a run, the watch itself should be able to summarize:

                        Total duration

                        Total distance

                        Basic recovery / rest time indication

                        These are fundamental metrics that are already recorded on-device during the activity.

                        On the Suunto Race 2 (for example, on the watch face), I notice that after finishing a run, the data is not updated until I sync with the phone app. If I don’t sync, the watch face still shows old values.

                        In real use, this is a bit problematic:

                        Many of us run in parks or outdoors without carrying a phone

                        After finishing the run, we naturally look at the watch expecting a quick summary

                        Being forced to sync first breaks the idea of the watch being truly independent

                        To be clear:
                        I fully understand that more advanced training metrics (Training Load, TSS, long-term trends, deeper analysis) may require app-side or server-side calculations. That makes sense.

                        But basic summaries like time, distance, and simple recovery indicators should be:

                        Calculated on-device

                        Immediately visible on the watch, without requiring a sync

                        This is not meant as a comparison or criticism of other brands, but objectively speaking, many other sports watches can already do this on the watch itself.

                        I really like the Suunto hardware and overall direction — this is just feedback on user experience. Improving on-device summaries would make the watch feel far more complete and independent.

                        -Suunto 9 Baro Titanium (The Iron Survivor)
                        -Suunto 9 Peak Pro (The Silent Feather)
                        -Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar (The Sun Drinker)
                        -Suunto Race Titanium (The Gleaming Phantom)
                        -Suunto Race2 Titanium (The Velvet Edge)

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