Update: Returning My Vertical 2

JonasLarsson

I’ve decided to return my Vertical 2 and stick with my Vertical 1. The differences between the two models weren’t significant enough to justify the upgrade for me.

This experience reminded me of something: the setup for disappointment is having high expectations. When you spend significant money on new gear, you naturally expect to see meaningful improvements. When those improvements are marginal or hard to notice in daily use, it’s disappointing.

I’ve been reading through many threads here about frustrations with various features and metrics, and it made me reflect on the cycle we sometimes get into – always looking for the next watch, the next feature, the better sensor.

The Vertical 1 does what I need. That’s enough.

I don’t want to spend my energy being disappointed by expensive purchases that barely move the needle. Sometimes the best upgrade is appreciating what already works.

Rayray

@JonasLarsson I currently own the Vertical 1, and I really like it. However, I’m also keeping an eye on the V2. Could you explain the specific reasons in detail? Best regards.

maszop

@JonasLarsson But the specifications, opinions of other people, photos, reviews were available everywhere – no one was hiding it, so why the disappointment? And why expect something different?

JonasLarsson

@maszop I think you are missing the point. I’m not saying I was misled. I’m saying I’ve learned to question whether I need upgrades just because they exist.

JonasLarsson

@Rayray No, I can’t. Not more than I wrote.

“The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool”

Richard P. Feynman

lessthanmore

@JonasLarsson said in Update: Returning My Vertical 2:

No, I can’t. Not more than I wrote.

Well, but there must have been a reason for buying it in the first place.
What were your expectations?
The specs are out there, you can even compare both watches on the website.

Or what’s the purpose of this thread? Solely self reflection?

safari

@lessthanmore I think your perspective is flawed.
First of all, this is a commercial business, and there will always be new models.
My watch became obsolete before the warranty expired. But that’s not a big deal.
The logic should be this:
If I’m going to buy a new Suunto watch for outdoor use, I’ll get the Vertical 2.
But I already have a Suunto Vertical 1, so I’ll use it until it breaks.
That’s the logic.

Brad_Olwin

@JonasLarsson I understand your reasons. The VI is a great watch and the MIP display has its distinct advantages as well as the disadvantages. Plus, battery life on the solar cannot be beat.

JonasLarsson

@lessthanmore You say ‘solely self reflection’ like it’s a bad thing. Should I have included a spec sheet?

JonasLarsson

@safari You’re right. I should do exactly what I did. Oh wait.

JonasLarsson

@Brad_Olwin said in Update: Returning My Vertical 2:

@JonasLarsson I understand your reasons. The VI is a great watch and the MIP display has its distinct advantages as well as the disadvantages. Plus, battery life on the solar cannot be beat.

Thanks for understanding. The V1 does everything I need.

lessthanmore

@JonasLarsson said in Update: Returning My Vertical 2:

@lessthanmore You say ‘solely self reflection’ like it’s a bad thing. Should I have included a spec sheet?

No, not at all. I fully understand you and I personally value the sustainable aspect of it.
My question was more related to the fact why you even ordered it and returned it knowing what you already knew when ordering the V2.
I caught myself yesterday with two new trail running shows in the basket and then deleting it for similar reasons.

@safari I honestly don’t know what you’re referring to. I do understand and support his decision but my perspective should not matter here.

Audaxjoe

I have just had a V2 delivered. I’m keeping mine, the display is just so much nicer and clearer in every day use. I pick up the V1 after a few days and the screen just looked smaller (the band around the edge) and harder to read.

But I totally get what you are saying and can understand why you are returning it. The difference is minimal…

But the V2 screen makes it with it for me.

However it is very second best to the V1 on the bike. I read here that a tester found no problems following a bike route in the V2. I do, the screen goes black and apart from the route roads are hard to see.

It is a minimal upgrade. But a others have mentioned I was well aware of the difference.

Owe and the touch I have found myself using nearly every day.

JonasLarsson

@Audaxjoe said in Update: Returning My Vertical 2:

I have just had a V2 delivered. I’m keeping mine, the display is just so much nicer and clearer in every day use. I pick up the V1 after a few days and the screen just looked smaller (the band around the edge) and harder to read.

But I totally get what you are saying and can understand why you are returning it. The difference is minimal…

But the V2 screen makes it with it for me.

However it is very second best to the V1 on the bike. I read here that a tester found no problems following a bike route in the V2. I do, the screen goes black and apart from the route roads are hard to see.

It is a minimal upgrade. But a others have mentioned I was well aware of the difference.

Owe and the touch I have found myself using nearly every day.

An example of awareness and knowing what you value and appreciate. Glad it’s working well for you!

Bogdan1921

Why did you order the watch? All the functions of the new watch are available on website and on internet there are tons of reviews.
Did you expect to have some surprises that were not presented?
I don’t understand this thing, to order and to return the watch. Not in this case, sorry.

Luis Andés Olmedo

@JonasLarsson you decission makes a lot of sense to me. I have a Race 2 and I am also considering to sell it and get a V1… I can’t get used to having a watch where I can’t always see the time without wasting a lot of battery (AMOLED).

Milan Šádek

@Bogdan1921 sorry, knowing the spec and feeling the watch on my arm are two totally different things

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

I love my v1

seanvk

Makes sense. I’ve also decided not to get a V2 to replace my V1. It’s a great watch.

Hari Seldon

Just a thought. Probably the biggest disappointment is that it’s not mip, and I’m pretty sure that if version 2 had had a different fate with the display, things would probably have turned out differently. When things work out, we almost always regret the past, but in my opinion this could be a “dangerous” bias if we look to the future…