Software Update 2.44.46 (2025 Q3)

Tieutieu

@smutnak Can’t tell about third party intervals, I don’t use them. But a friend using Nolio told me that bip doesn’t work with guides created by nolio. I know that icu guides are including rep counter (don’t know about bip) since a long time.
So far and considering that there is no official communication from suunto about those news features, I guess we have to consider that they work (bip countdown at last) only with native structure workouts

smutnak

@Tieutieu OK, same with TrainingPeaks no bip countdown, so I hope it will change in the next update maybe

Chris_Dx

@Theo-Lakerveld I have tried the same than you, two full load cycle and soft reset but no improvment seen on the battery consumption. It remains higher than before the last FW update with the same watch configuration. Impossible to stay more than 6 days without loading, with no sport activity. I’m very worried about how it will hold up during an ultra trail. I’m not sure it will last the advertised 50 hours, and I’m not sure it will even last 40 hours.

Wilson75

@Tieutieu I created a workout in SA with manual lap button.
I don’t have any information on the change.

Here a video
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8cYgsps9NaGYzjPf7

Tieutieu

@Wilson75 have you the description of the guide you’ve created ? You’ve got the counter of rep stuck but it doesn’t change, Is that what your video is showing ?. (With manual lap you can’t off course get the bip countdown to next step)

SuperFlo75

I noticed that the VO2max calculation seems to be gone in my recent runs… the last calculation I can see was on 8/19/25, that was before updating my watch. Where is it gone? Do you have this phenomenon, too?
I’m not sure if this is due to lost of all my settings after the update? But I did 4 trail runs since the update, and several walks…

Squirrel

@SuperFlo75 said in Software Update 2.44.46 (2025 Q3):

I noticed that the VO2max calculation seems to be gone in my recent runs… the last calculation I can see was on 8/19/25, that was before updating my watch. Where is it gone? Do you have this phenomenon, too?
I’m not sure if this is due to lost of all my settings after the update? But I did 4 trail runs since the update, and several walks…

If your watch got hard reset, it could take time. When I got a new watch, it took over a month to get VO2 max.

Wilson75

@Tieutieu
I have created a new workout. In my workout I have Burpees and pushup for the name of the workout. I don’t have any info about the exercise to do.
I only see the name of the rest segment with the name “rest workout”
Here a video + screenshot

https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xyZx8p4W4Ngh7Mj6

Wilson75

Wing2 is here but music control is really not stable.

media control is not working
Enable or disable music control is sync across sport mode.

https://forum.suunto.com/post/174809

Tieutieu

@Wilson75 well behaviour is ok according with what you’ve programmed : you have the number of series displayed (1/6, 2/6…)and the 5sec bip countdown 5sec before the end of your pushups
For now also for me, name of the rep you’ve chosen (burpees or pushups) is not displayed, only rep counter).
My guess is that it’s due to display organisation and limitation (it would not be possible to display either name of rep and rep counter, especially if name of rep is too long).
But at the start of your exercice I thought it would displayed complete workout (lap/rest/20sec sep).

I just tested to change the name of my 30’ rep in a 3x [8x30’/30] running session, display is still the same at the beginning of session. Same screen but with « set 2 » before second rep of set.
So my guess is that at beginning of set, maybe the screen displays only time/distance based reps ?

[edit : I just checked and changed my recovery time for a « press button to next step », and indeed now the set screen before it start only shows now the time based rep.

And if changed with distance based reps it’s displayed. So, conclusion is that press lap based reps are not displayed on set screen before it starts.

Ars Vitae

@pavel.samokha said in Software Update 2.44.46 (2025 Q3):

Improved swim style detection in pool swimming

Not really, it confuses backstroke with freestyle and sometimes fails to recognize breaststroke.
And speaking of swimming, the update introduced a bug. The SuuntoPlus App “Send Off” runs in the background even though it’s stopped. I can see in the watch menu that it’s stopped, but the 10-second countdown and start signals still work. When I turn it back on, it’s updated with a few more “send-offs.” Strange.

Ars Vitae

@Jan-Suchánek It’s quite logical given what has been declared. The update is about “pairing” not “connection”:

Support for pairing multiple sensors of same type

I would be more concerned about this condition: what does “of the same type” mean?

olson917

@Ars-Vitae “of the same type” just means of the same type of sensor, like external HR strap, power meter, speed/cadence sensor, etc. For instance I have 4 different HR straps paired and 2 different speed/cadence sensors paired.

Ars Vitae

@olson917 Thanks, I just finally understood the idea. I thought that it could be maybe the same type = same sport. The Suunto has Bike Sensor that meters cadence and speed and I’v never been able to synchronize both parameters, even though they come from the same device.

Wilson75

@Tieutieu thank you for sharing your perspective.
To be honest, this feels more like a bug or even a downgrade. I usually program my intervals with intervals.icu, and I used to see my exercises (e.g., burpees). Now I can’t see them anymore.

After all these years with Suunto, this is the first time I feel truly disappointed with a Suunto app and watch update.

Suunto app issues:

The map has been removed from the profile view.
The map view in Route details is now very small and impractical. I wonder if it was actually tested internally before release.
Editing waypoints or planning routes is clunky. You need to tap and hold multiple times before anything happens.

Q3 release issues:

Climb guidance v2: still doesn’t work properly for me…
Paired devices: when cycling, I pair both my watch and bike computer to my power meter. After this release, my activity is missing power metrics, even though pairing shows as successful…
Interval workouts with third-party apps: not working as they should anymore…
Music control: never works…

This is the first time I’m more eager for a bug fix release than for an actual feature release.
I know some people from Suunto are here, and I don’t mean to say the work isn’t good. I just want to share my frustration about certain features not working as they should.

Tieutieu

@Wilson75 understand your frustration.
I’m less concerned by some issues you have (I don’t use icu so for me new bip and rep counter is a huge uprade; only use music control with my Suunto Wing => works well). I sometimes use my HR belt + DI2 app and have no issue. No particular problems with route or waypoints.

For me the 2 mains issues since update :

VO2max bug on running activities => all activities are categorized has V02max. It false suunto coach, analyses…
Climb guidance on routes with waypoints => no possibility to zoom in into current segment and so no %of climb displayed anymore in this case. huge regression/miss.

Ars Vitae

@Tieutieu said in Software Update 2.44.46 (2025 Q3):

VO2max bug on running activities => all activities are categorized has V02max. It false suunto coach, analyses…

Could you elaborate? I’m guessing what the problem is, but I don’t quite understand what you mean. I have a feeling that something is wrong with the VO2Max algorithm since the last few updates, that’s why I’m curious. Trying to understand the problem.

Tieutieu

@Ars-Vitae it’s simple, and guess it’s a bug. I’m on IOS SA and don’t know if it’s related to: all my runnings (only runnings, road or trail) are auto tagged has VO2max effort, whatever intensity of the session is. I’ve made most of my session in Z1 or Z2, they’re tagged has Vo2max.
All good for other sports… same with both my SV OR SRs
In my case my settings of HR zones (which I set slightly different than factory settings) for all sports had been reseted, running specific hr zones had been pinned on ((had to unpin it). Even after that and soft reset all my runnings are still Vo2max. Same if use my SV or my SRs.
All my friends have the same issue.

Mitch9

All your zones in the watch (hr, pace, power) are set correctly?

After this the algorithm worked fine again in my case.

Tieutieu

@Mitch9 Yep.
Like I have always set : I use “HR zones for all sports”, and I don’t use “specific intensity zones (power/pace) for running”.
My HR zones are properly set, same values than before update.