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    • timecodeT Offline
      timecode @Łukasz Szmigiel
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      @Łukasz-Szmigiel if not then it’s going to be very strange. There is Vertical, Race, now Run. Race has features the Vertical doesn’t have, like nap detection. Run is not going to have topo maps, reduced amount of sport modes. Other brands have same features, menu, etc., across all models, whether it’s a low or high end model. I am very curious tbh.

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      • gerasimosG Offline
        gerasimos Bronze Member @raven
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        @raven
        I suppose the main reasoning behind Suunto creating this particular watch is very simple, practical, and at the same time highly profitable.
        It targets the complete beginner runner who just wants a watch that can simply record a basic running activity. They won’t make use of maps or any other specialized navigation features.
        It will be a true entry-level model in the Suunto sports watch lineup—easy to use, lightweight, and inexpensive to produce.
        And of course, the €100 difference to upgrade to the Suunto Race is significant, especially if someone doesn’t need all those extra sports modes and features.

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        • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
          Łukasz Szmigiel @timecode
          last edited by

          @timecode strange. Unless there are some changes in the hardware that call for the new OS. That’s my reasoning.

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            raven Bronze Member @gerasimos
            last edited by raven

            @gerasimos said in Suunto Run + New Strap:

            @raven
            I suppose the main reasoning behind Suunto creating this particular watch is very simple, practical, and at the same time highly profitable.
            It targets the complete beginner runner who just wants a watch that can simply record a basic running activity. They won’t make use of maps or any other specialized navigation features.
            It will be a true entry-level model in the Suunto sports watch lineup—easy to use, lightweight, and inexpensive to produce.
            And of course, the €100 difference to upgrade to the Suunto Race is significant, especially if someone doesn’t need all those extra sports modes and features.

            So is your position on the extra modes is that they are too confusing for an entry level person?

            I’d need to see the list of what’s included and what is left out to fully accept that. I recall when I first turned on the Race S it had a few watch faces, then after the first software update only one watch faces was present and I had to load the rest from the Suunto app. Sport modalities can be like that — load whatever default number you think a new user will look for, but allow them to simply load others they might need. I think even if someone is coming to the Run only expecting to run, having access to more modes is a good thing to encourage diversity.

            I say this from experience. Over a decade ago when I started my fitness journey, it was as a runner. At the time I was running 5-6 days a week, at one point over 50km weekly. I wasn’t really doing anything else. Happily, I never injured myself, but over time I learned over things to diversify. In particular, doing yoga has been great for me. My hamstrings had gotten pretty tight and at first yoga was difficult. Now I can put my feet fully on the ground in downward dog, something I thought wouldn’t be possible the first time I tried yoga. I learned to do handstands and headstands and then took up gymnastics. I hope stretching and yoga are included in the sports modes.

            For something like maps, I can see where those might not be needed, and if the Run has less storage on it due to not needing to support apps, then this trade-off makes sense. Even for myself, I only really need maps when traveling, and I see the sense in this differentiation. However, I don’t think additional sport modes take a lot of space in comparison?

            As another comparison, imagine if the Run doesn’t allow 24-7 heart rate activity, but only allows heart rate reading during a session. This might make sense if the Run didn’t have an optical HRM and required the use of a chest strap (cheaper watch hardware), but having an optical HRM if Suunto were to say “no Heart widget, no 24/7 heart rate, no sleep mode” because the imagined Run user only wants to run I think would be shortsighted.

            Also, over on the Apple Watch, Suunto’s “sister app” Sports Tracker has pretty much all the modes the Race does. So one can get more sports modes from Suunto using Sports Tracker on an Apple Watch than on their own new Run model; that’s silly.

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            • gerasimosG Offline
              gerasimos Bronze Member @raven
              last edited by gerasimos

              @raven yes that’s my position!
              e.g
              If the basic line and low cost Garmin Forerunner 55 already meets all the requirements for my activities, why should I spend more money on the Forerunner 965?

              And yes, developing a watch with significantly less memory and limited software capabilities is much cheaper in terms of production cost compared to a mid range or higher-end model. That’s exactly why the initial build is designed the way it is and later upgraded gradually through software updates.

              So, in mass production and with a targeted sales group, the company with new Suunto Run achieves significantly higher profit margins or at the very least, an attempt to capture the segment of consumers who want to spend as less money as possible on a sports watch that is compact, light on the wrist(not metall), and very simple to use.

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              • Ecki D.E Offline
                Ecki D. Bronze Member
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                Still waiting for the Vertical Race Pro Titanium S - so far 🙂

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                • isaziI Offline
                  isazi Moderator
                  last edited by

                  If and when this new watch is released, I don’t see much reason for debate. Suunto makes watches, and they release them to market, would be worried if they didn’t.

                  This should not affect the watch you already have 🙂

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                  • gerasimosG Offline
                    gerasimos Bronze Member @isazi
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                    @isazi The only concern I could possibly have is if a better-looking watch comes out than the Suunto Vertical 🫠🔺

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                    • isaziI Offline
                      isazi Moderator @gerasimos
                      last edited by

                      @gerasimos I haven’t seen one yet 🙂

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                      • gerasimosG Offline
                        gerasimos Bronze Member @isazi
                        last edited by

                        @isazi It’s impossible to make a better one. 😅

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                          kriskus Bronze Member @gerasimos
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                          @gerasimos Well, Ocean is also very good-looking 🙂 But I still love the Vertical

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                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @kriskus
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                            @kriskus The Vertical is my go to watch. But the Ocean is the best looking watch Suunto has made! Despite having both, the Vertical is most often on my wrist.

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                              gerasimos Bronze Member @kriskus
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                              @kriskus yup… for me Vertical Ti it’s the perfect blend balance of adventure/tactical colour/urban-rugged style Ocean it’s more clear elegant style.
                              Both of them great.

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                                dulko79
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                                Suunto Ocean Steel black is the best looking watch out there. I hope Suunto offers Ocean without diving features like a Vertical version with amoled display in future. 😃

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                                  herlas Silver Members
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                                  The Suunto run is my go-to watch and it’s not even released yet 😉

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                                  • F Offline
                                    far-blue Bronze Member
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                                    The Ocean is too chunky and ‘rugged’ for my taste - I loved the 5 Peak and I love my Race S! The Run looks great and being thin and light it is very tempting but I don’t think it will tempt me from my beloved Race S 🙂

                                    I am curious about the post-exercise hr tracking though 🙂

                                    I’m also hopeful, with the marketing focus on structured workout support that there will be a few of those missing features appearing with the next OS release 🙂

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                                    • PavlasP Offline
                                      Pavlas
                                      last edited by

                                      I would like a Suunto Vertical Steel Black 🙂

                                      🔺Vertical All Black

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                                      Ambit2 Black
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                                      S9B All Black
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                                        mabe2k Bronze Member @Pavlas
                                        last edited by

                                        @Pavlas but then the color must be scratch resistant. This is the only thing I dislike on my Race all black.

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                                        • Tami999T Offline
                                          Tami999 Silver Members @mabe2k
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                                          @mabe2k Same. I love Vertical look. Don’t like bright titanium in Race and all black easy to scratch.

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                                          • timecodeT Offline
                                            timecode
                                            last edited by sartoric

                                            I’ll just paste it here…

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