Suunto ZoneSense

[GiPFELKiND]

@Raphes67 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

My first run with this new function didn’t deliver the results I was expecting, but I’m going to test it out again on my next runs.
On the other hand, I think Suunto should simplify the data display, which can be confusing.
Before doing the “Anaerobic threshold” test, I had an estimated lactate threshold of 153 in the watch’s CTL view. This seems low to me (max at 184). After doing the test, my threshold is 177. Big difference and a significant impact on the zones. I hope Zonesense will help me see things more clearly, otherwise I think I’ll just go for Karvonen’s zones.

Hey i dont have Treshhold values in the CTL widget. Never ever, No day until i got my watch…

[Swaddy61]

Well, I stil can’t find ZoneSense in my Android App (V4.100.4).

I know it only works on activities with a HR Belt, but my last few activities have been multisport (with a Suunto belt). Does it wotk with Multisport?

I have looked in several Multisport activities, and there is nothing in the App in the position seen above (i.e. just under Analysis in the Activity).

I have logged out, closed the App, Restarted, Logged back in, still nothing.

I have been back to what I think were single activities with a belt, but still no ZoneSense.

So what am I doing wrong / missing?

[Mattg576]

Anyone else’s Zonesense data not fit on the screen in the App ?

iPhone12
IOS Version 17.7

[SvenSchroeter]

@Mattg576 same here… it looks like it slipped to the right

[isazi]

@SvenSchroeter @Mattg576 for the phone app, please discuss it in the proper section of the forum

[GiPFELKiND]

@Mattg576 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

Anyone else’s Zonesense data not fit on the screen in the App ?

iPhone12
IOS Version 17.7

The First 10 minutes from workout there is collect the baseline. Cause there the graph is Starting later in the screen

[GiPFELKiND]

@SvenSchroeter said in Suunto ZoneSense:

@Mattg576 same here… it looks like it slipped to the right

The First 10 minutes from workout there is collect the baseline. Cause there the graph is Starting later in the screen

[Raphes67]

With this new feature, we have proof that data can be analyzed post activity, without wearing the watch to display information in the Suunto App (even for older models).
Why not reproduce this principle for other metrics such as run/walk/stop time or calories burned or others ?

[isazi]

@Raphes67 we always knew you can do almost everything post-activity in the app, but most people want features on the watch in real-time, not just after

[Raphes67]

@isazi Given the 2 Suunto Plus App limit, I was thinking that for a trail ride, for example, I’d want some live metrics (why not ZoneSense, hydration reminder, or whatever) but once the activity is over I could display the cumulative run/walk/stop post-activity.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

Does it work correctly for people with LBBB or left bundle branch block? And data on that?

[isazi]

@Raphes67 to be honest, I think that the walk/run/stand information is more useful after (for statistical reason) than during an activity

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

Is it really useful for a mixed 2 hour cycling workout where HR oscilates between 100 and 130 with occasional 130 - 150? Or it should be used only on steady pace and HR?

I’ve been observing strange behaviour which can be also seen on the post workout graph:

The zone sense mirrors the rise in HR but on the negative side. When my effort rizes, zone sense falls.

Even considering the lag (which I understand) - this is quite strange as I’ve been cycling everyday for the last few days and I feel tired, which is reflected in my aerobic threshold falling down from 121 yesterday to 115 today, but:

Considering that I’m on 115 today, most of my workout should have been in anaerobic, but zone sense mostly indicated aerobic.

What am I missing?

[Tieutieu]

Don’t know if it’s been noticed already but top button on zonesens app screen changes data displayed :

• main datas : duration in every zone
• instant pace / instant bpm
• instant power / instant bpm
• total elevation / total descent since beginning

Makes app much more useful to me

[Raphes67]

@isazi I couldn’t agree more, hence my comment. Normally, without using the ultra-walking application, we wouldn’t have access to this type of information, even though it’s there and could be generated post-training.

[Josaiplu]

@Tieutieu yep and you could change data displayed in the settings of the s+ app
I have hr/Ngp for trails it is huge

[Tieutieu]

@Josaiplu great !!! Didn’t know that !

[sartoric]

It’s seems that ZS doesn’t work for App recorded activities … or it is the specific activity type (martial arts)

[far-blue]

As zoneSense is an app does it behave in the same way as the Stryd app in that its connection to the device is independent of the watch native pairing? And does that mean that the zoneSense app effectively highjacks the HR datastream?

I’m just wondering for 2 reasons:

firstly, if using zoneSense can you then not use structured workouts that are based on HR zones (because the HR data isn’t available) or does the watch resort to using the OHR? Because when you shift stryd to pair to the stryd app you then couldn’t use power based zones unless you relied on the built-in support. At the time I had a 5 Peak which doesn’t do native power which basically meant no power zones if you wanted to use the stryd app.

secondly, to fix this possible issue, does this mean you can theoretically have an OHR armband paired to the watch for normal HR (rather than use the built-in OHR) and then also the chest strap paired to the zoneSense app for the zoneSense stuff? Or even the same chest strap paired twice (assuming the chest strap supports multi-device pairing)?

[herlas]

@far-blue S+ ZoneSense app is a regular type, meaning it’s not a device type like Stryd S+, so there’s no connecting directly to the HR sensor and belt here.

Whatever HR-based structured workout you have can continue executing.
Limit being one S+ app and one Suunto guide at a single time.