SW update 2.37.34 Q3

duffman19

@duffman19 said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

Turn-by-turn notifications are still f-ed up.

After a few more tests with turn-by-turn guidance, I think I have a handle on the behavior. (It’s really hard to believe that anyone actually tested this before release. The bugs/errors are just too obvious).

When first starting an activity with route navigation and turn-by-turn guidance, if left on the default data screen (no scrolling to other screens), there are tone/vibration alerts for turns, but no on-screen notifications, full-screen or otherwise. (So not as expected.)
Scrolling to the map screen, tone/vibe alerts work as before (~100m before turn and at turn) and no on-screen notification. (As expected.)
Scrolling away from the map, full-screen notifications are displayed for turns. (As expected.)
Scrolling back to the map screen, full-screen notifications are still displayed… sometimes. Sometimes they aren’t. No rhyme or reason. (Not as expected.)
From this point on, it’s a crap shoot. Sometimes you’ll get full-screen notifications, sometimes you won’t.

The issue before this “solution” wasn’t necessarily that the TBT notifications took up the whole screen. It was that they took up the whole screen with the WRONG INFORMATION. I don’t mind a full-screen notification if it tells me where to turn when I’m at the turn. If it shows me the next turn, which could be miles away, it’s of no use to me.

I think Suunto was correct to do away with the full-screen notifications when viewing the map since the info is already there in the tooth and the route arrow. However, we still need them when on other screens. If Suunto wants to get away from the full-screen thing, then maybe just have the direction arrow take over the tooth form 5-8 seconds. You know, like Garmin does it.

But this implementation has made things worse. Turn-by-turn guidance is completely unreliable and unusable at this point.

far-blue

@duffman19 I like your suggestion the tbt alert takes over the tooth on all screens rather than the whole screen (although that might not be possible on Suunto+ apps). And I 100% agree with you about the whole current turn vs next turn alert situation.

Umer Javed

@Jordi-C said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

It also doesn’t detects “abnormal high speed”.
This afternoon my wife’s SR S didn’t detected when she took the bus to go home from the gym.

Happened to me on the hiking mode today, drove about 1km from the parking lot before I glanced at the screen.

9pp

Luis Andés Olmedo

@duffman19 said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

Scrolling back to the map screen, full-screen notifications are still displayed… sometimes. Sometimes they aren’t. No rhyme or reason. (Not as expected.)

From this point on, it’s a crap shoot. Sometimes you’ll get full-screen notifications, sometimes you won’t.

I experienced exactly that yesterday during my 3h navigation.

gone troppo

I have SV and haven’t seen comment on this yet. I can now have HR as one of my watch face displays which is great been waiting for this a long time. However it only displays when you have unlocked the watch by pressing a button. As soon as the watch locks itself the HR complication dissapeared and you have to press a button for it to display again?? Is it possible to have it displayed 24/7 on new watch face ?

smessina

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Hello. After the update, only 1 watch face is available on my Suunto vertical. when I access the store/ watch faces on the Suunto app, it says I have other faces already loaded on my watch. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling other watch faces, but the watch still only has 1 watch face saved. Is there a solution for this?

thanasis

@gone-troppo said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

I have SV and haven’t seen comment on this yet. I can now have HR as one of my watch face displays which is great been waiting for this a long time. However it only displays when you have unlocked the watch by pressing a button. As soon as the watch locks itself the HR complication dissapeared and you have to press a button for it to display again?? Is it possible to have it displayed 24/7 on new watch face ?

I believe it would be quite energy consuming. a constant change in the data shown on the screen is a bit challenging

gerstlauer

So along with the map screen, it seems we can no longer pause activities from the climb guidance screen.

Luis Andés Olmedo

@Luis-Andés-Olmedo said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

the backlight often doesn’t turn on when I twist my wrist or when a notification (lap or turn) appears (after some tests I detected that it turns on if I keep the wrist twisted for 8 seconds or so). This was a problem because I was in a dark forest, and it was difficult to see the screen. At night, the watch would have been unusable.

Has anyone else detected this issue?

logger

@Matt-Cooper-Kay I find this annoying as well. I do most of my running with the map screen, and now I have to push the crown button twice to get to a screen that will enable me to pause the activity. Why this gradual removal of a simple functionality? When I bought the Race, I could pause on the map screen, then that was removed, and now this? Can anyone confirm (or ask Suunto—maybe @isazi?) if this is intended or a bug?

enriqueescoms

@logger said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

@Matt-Cooper-Kay I find this annoying as well. I do most of my running with the map screen, and now I have to push the crown button twice to get to a screen that will enable me to pause the activity. Why this gradual removal of a simple functionality? When I bought the Race, I could pause on the map screen, then that was removed, and now this? Can anyone confirm (or ask Suunto—maybe @isazi?) if this is intended or a bug?

Same for 9PP users. I have stated this in several posts. Until two updates ago, you could pause/stop on the navigation screen (9PP does not have maps). Incomprehensibly for me, this option is no longer available. Several moderators, such as @Isazi, have come to say that it is a decision made to unify between watches. Although I still do not understand it (nor do I agree).

I only hope that the developers find a more satisfactory solution for everyone in the future.

Ecki D.

@tmclr that’s funny - my step count was ridiculously high before 2.35 and it looks better now.
SPP9 till June I had almost everyday about 16000 Steps even when I only rode my bike to the office, sitting at the desc whole day through and rode back home.
Now It differs between 10k and 5k depending if it is a running or biking day.
Can’t compare it with apple but garmin and it looks much closer than before when it counted 300 steps just for brushing my tooth.

Ecki D.

Yesterday I had abnormal high TSS Values of more the 5000 in the watch widgets S9PP.
It went away after syncing everything looked normal again. Didn’t take a photo but it looked really weird. Everything having to do with TSS was maxed out. But the training logs on the watch didn’t show anything wrong.
Will check again next weekend if it might happen again.

Mauerwegler

@Tieutieu said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

everything works perfectly here ! (I’m on latest iOS and on 2.37.6 beta app).

That is the version in TestFlight, but in the App Store it is 2.37.10 for one week already.

Jordi C

I can already confirm that there is a problem with my wife’s Race S and the latest update.

After resetting the phone to factory defaults, this morning we retested the motion detection warning after a pause and it failed again.
More than one kilometer walked outdoors after the pause and the watch did not detect the movement at all.

Definitely something is wrong.

Egika

@Jordi-C said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

I can already confirm that there is a problem with my wife’s Race S and the latest update.

After resetting the phone to factory defaults, this morning we retested the motion detection warning after a pause and it failed again.
More than one kilometer walked outdoors after the pause and the watch did not detect the movement at all.

Definitely something is wrong.

walked or run?
You know there are speed thresholds and the feature works in certain activities?

isazi

@enriqueescoms this should be fixed, as far as I know, in Q4 update

enriqueescoms

@isazi said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:

@enriqueescoms this should be fixed, as far as I know, in Q4 update

Thanks god

Luis Andés Olmedo

@Luis-Andés-Olmedo said in SW update 2.37.34 Q3:
the backlight often doesn’t turn on when I twist my wrist or when a notification (lap or turn) appears (after some tests I detected that it turns on if I keep the wrist twisted for 8 seconds or so). This was a problem because I was in a dark forest, and it was difficult to see the screen. At night, the watch would have been unusable.

So I detected that it is not an activity issue but it also happens in watch mode.

Jordi C

@Egika Walked in trekking mode as we do always.

I don’t know if it is a speed thresholds issue or not, , but it was working fine in previous firmware releases.
Why don’t take into account GPS location changes to determine that you are moving?

Look at the straight line in today’s activity

today’s walk