Stryd vs race s
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I can’t find out how to use the stryd app from suunto plus. It is paired through settings - connectivity - pair foot pod. But when I want to start a run and try to connect trough the plus app it can’t find the stryd
Any ideas?
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@Fabii85 https://help.stryd.com/en/articles/6891946-suunto-3-5-9-spartan-vertical-race-and-ambit-3-setup-with-stryd
Make sure you don’t have some battery saving that disallow BT connectivity.
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@Fabii85 don’t pair the Stryd as a footpod if you’re going to use the S+ app.
It can only pair to one service on the watch; either footpod or S+ app, but not both.
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@Ze-Stuart thanks!!!
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@Ze-Stuart is it possible to auto import stryd workouts (following training plan) to the watch?
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@Fabii85 yes, however I stopped using the Stryd S+ app as I didn’t find it useful: it will sync more data to Stryd, but not the full data captured by the pod (eg air power is missing), and remove the cached run from your Stryd, losing the missing data.
I’m doing the following, after connecting Stryd and Suunto:
- Running with the Stryd connected as a footpod, without the S+ app.
- After a run, Suunto sends the basic workout (GNSS track, HR, &c) to Stryd. If I was following a Stryd workout, at this point I’ll pair them.
- I manually sync my Stryd pod, and the full data is integrated.
NB if you don’t manually sync your pod after a run (eg if you’re coming from Garmin or Apple), the first time you sync it’ll import every cached run from the pod, creating duplicate workouts. You can either clean this manually, or, create a second Stryd account, sync once to clean the pod, and then follow the steps above with your normal Stryd account. I evolved this are back and forth with Stryd support, so it’s official, if a little irksome.
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I use the same method as you @Ze-Stuart on my SR the only difference being I use uploading to Stryd as stepping stone to get all the pod data into TrainingPeaks so that the data can be analysed by WKO 5
Why can’t Suunto just put all the data from Stryd into the .fit file? If they can add extra data for the S+ app then surely it can be done in the app or the watch in general. Then I could just sync Suunto to TP and that’s that.
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@Richard-McGlory there’s a lot of data coming from the pod: I imagine the volume exceeds what the watch can process and reliably deliver functionality.
Case in point: when I was having a go with a Garmin, I was using the watch to play cached Spotify music and track a run while connected to a chest strap and Stryd Duo, with the Stryd CIQ data field. The watch kept auto-pausing the workout, as it was losing connectivity to the Stryd, and it thought that meant speed = 0, so, logically pause. I opened a ticket with Stryd about it, and they said that the watch was out of resources.
I’d rather not have to come up with complex systems, but at the same time I prefer not having my run auto-pause due to resource saturation.
Question for you: when you sync the pod’s data to Stryd, does it overwrite the elevation plot? Mine does; I find it irksome.
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@Ze-Stuart Thanks that puts things in to more perspective. The watches do have a lot memory though but if you are using maps and music then it will get eaten up quickly.
Yes, on merge the elevation plot gets overwritten and it is as you say it is irksome.
I also found that at times when the data is merged the pace drops to zero, but the data before the merge, pace has no drops. This happens occasionally.I have a Garmin 255, I will probably use that for workouts and see how it goes. I got the SR for trail running and ultras, I didn’t think about Stryd integration at the time.
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@Richard-McGlory I’m going to open a ticket with Stryd’s support about it: I think they’re very focussed on their AW app (which to their credit is excellent), and Garmin, so another Suunto voice would be great!
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@Ze-Stuart yeah, that sounds great.
Anyway hats off to the Suunto team for creating the S+ Stryd App otherwise I don’t think anything would have been created.
I would still like to see the option of getting all the data in the .fit file and I think the app shows that it is possible. They could even create a separate app to do it.That would probably take care of the elevation plot issue too.
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@Richard-McGlory or if the data was left on the Styrd pod, so that one can still sync it after the run. I imagine there’s a flag that says ‘do not record this run’ that’s set by the CIQ field, AW app, and S+ app.
Seconded on them actually doing something, one has to start somewhere!
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@Ze-Stuart - I have just come of AW to the Race S. I will follow the above. I used the PowerCentre training plans on the AW. I assume there is no automated way of syncing the workout from PowerCentre to Suunto and I would need to re-create as a S+ guide?
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@kkalsi correct. I find it annoying, but, it gives me the opportunity to really understand the plan, which I value.
It’s not as bad as it seems: there aren’t that many templates for plans, so mostly you have to create them once, and then adjust the intervals and power bands.
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@kkalsi Yes, unfortunately you are correct. This is, however, entirely in Stryd’s hands as Suunto has an available API and support for structured workouts that works brilliantly for training peaks, TAO and a number of other workout providers. Other than the well-documented lack of alerts when you go out of zone.
Before I switched to a running watch I used iSmoothRun on my iPhone and that could collect all the stryd metrics. But the only way to get them back into stryd was to sync to a garmin connect account and link that to stryd. Again, this is Stryd not being willing to open apis and integrate with more of the running ecosystem.
These days I do as the others have said and sync the stryd every few runs to enrich the run data. Honestly, though, as I don’t have Duo I’m not missing much - I don’t make much use of the additional data and it’s “stuck” inside Stryd power centre, not where I’d use it such as runalyze.
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@Ze-Stuart Thank you.
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@far-blue thanks. It is a shame as Stryd seem to be focused on the AW app as the priority
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@kkalsi it is, but it gives them the most control, and is a huge market segment. Send them enough nice support tickets…
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@Ze-Stuart agreed - nice tickets on the way !
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@Richard-McGlory my elevation plot issue was resolved after a suggestion from their support: wash the pods. Turns out the air hole on the front was clogged.
