How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?

VoiGAS

@Brad_Olwin Interesting, thank you for this answer. Looks like the watches behave a little different. I hope one of the next updates will give me a similar performance - then I am perfectly happy with the Race S

Edit: Found some strange behaviour after experimenting with the settings, but its to OT here - I opened a new topic

VoiGAS

Maybe some positive things about the Races S compared to 9PP
I already said I don’t like the AMOLED display at all. But there is one thing I really like: the torch feature. I thought about it as a useless gimmick, but it works great and easy to access via shortcut
The maps are not as useful as I thought for Y crossing and routing. But if you are not following a route and just want to checkout where a trail will bring you during a hike - perfect!

So two points for the Race S

VoiGAS

Is it just for me or did Suunto really changed back the price of the Peak Pro? For me in the shop the price for the steel version is again 349€ after it went down to 299€ some weeks ago.
I don’t think they will sell a lot for the price of the Race S

TrailEyes

@VoiGAS On the U.S. site, steel 9PP listed at $249. Not sure why there’d be such a difference between dollars and euros though.

VoiGAS

@TrailEyes Thats a great deal!

Audaxjoe

@VoiGAS also think about it on a bike handlebars. Next to useless. The Vertical is always readable. If it gets dark you turn the backlight on.

Elipsus

@TrailEyes That’s usually because US prices are displayed w\o taxes (as it varies from state to state) while euro prices include VAT

Egika

@VoiGAS I just measured the screen response time using a video with timestamp.
from turning my wrist to the screen lighting up with data it is exactly 200ms in my Race S

TrailEyes

@Elipsus That doesn’t seem to usually be the case actually. For example, France/Germany sites have the titanium Vertical at €799 while in the U.S. it’s $839. So the U.S. price in that case is higher.

Other pricing tends to match, like titanium Race at €549/$549 and steel Race S at €349/$349, etc.

Comparing the sites, it’s more that the U.S. appears to get more sale pricing opportunities. Not only is the 9PP listed at a sale discount for the U.S. only, but both Wing and Sonic are being offered at U.S. discounts too whereas Europe isn’t getting those deals.

VoiGAS

@Egika Thats very strange! 200ms would be great, maybe my unit is somehow slower. What are your display settings? Time starts from lifting the arm, not from entering the Field of View, right?

Egika

@VoiGAS time starts from watch reaching horizontal position (before this, the watch cannot know I want to read it) until screen is showing data.
Setting: AOD: off, raise to wake: full on

pilleus

After testing the Race S extensively, I’m sticking with my 9 Peak Pro. With a Race S upgrade.

wakarimasen

@pilleus Interested in understanding why…I still have the 9PP

Highlands

@pilleus So, what are your thoughts on SRS and why you didn’t keep it?

pilleus

@Highlands @wakarimasen

I don’t need maps
For cycling, kayaking, kick biking I don’t wear a watch at the wrist, because it’s hard to check the data on the display
Mounted on the handle bar of the bike/kick bike there is a button press needed to have full illuminated display on the Race S. No fun during riding. In the kayak there is no way to do that.
HR sensor is no upgrade for me, because 9PP is working great for me.
Sleep tracking with REM and light sleep is the job of my Google nest.
HRV is working fine with my 9PP.
The rotating crown took some getting used to, especially if you are used to 9pp and vertical. I often pressed the bottom button instead of turning the crown.
Buttons can be operated at any time with gloves, but the rotating crown is rather difficult.

I liked the display of the Race S indoor, brilliant and outstanding. For walking, running I would take the Race S, but my preferred activities are biking, kayaking and kick bike.

Just a few reasons to stay with the 9PP.

The price (314 EUR) was okay for the Race S and I can recommend it for runners (track, trail) and walkers.

herlas

@pilleus migration was way too loud on S9PP, I guess it’s not a big deal

pilleus

@herlas said in How is the 9PP positioned with the new arrival of the RaceS?:

@pilleus migration was way too loud on S9PP, I guess it’s not a big deal

Sorry for my English, but I don’t get the point of your answer…

Egika

vibration

VoiGAS

Price of the 9PP is again down to 299€ on the austrian/german webshop. Strange price hopping, maybe they increased it before to have the posiibility to discount for Black Friday. Wouldn’t be an uncommon practice