Comfort - wrist bone rubbing
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Moving from Garmin I found out that SR are less comfortable and I started to notice body legs rubbing against wrist bone. Yes I can tight up the band so the watches holds above wrist bone but e.g. during bumpy downhill on bike they tend to slip down anyway.
I think Suunto can improve design to prevent this as all other brands did.
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Body leg edges are too sharp what is just nonsense which should have been resolved by brand as Suunto. I can’t see any advantage in that just cons.
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Body legs are too long which makes described problem even worse. I think there is no point in having such long legs. It even position sensors further from skin. Watches can be fixed better on the place with less band pressure when body back is a little bit higher than legs.
Fenix 7x - Suunto Race - Polar Grit X 2 pro - Coros Vertix
What do you think?
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@Emil-Červeňan I definitely agree that the lugs are much too sharp. This has been discussed before, especially in regards to the Vertical. And I believe Suunto actually softened the edges of the Race’s lugs compared to the Vertical’s (I have a Vertical and can’t compare directly).
I don’t think the lugs are too long, though. I have a Garmin 955, and the lug-to-lug distance on that watch is actually longer than the Vertical’s, despite the SV being a larger watch. I think the real issue is the angle of the lugs. They should be flatter so they don’t dig into the wrist. You can see on the Garmin and Coros watches that their lugs are “higher” off the wrist bone.
I was somewhat able to resolve my comfort issues by switching to a nylon velcro strap. Being able to dial in a precise fit seems to help. Maybe give that a try?
I will say, though, that the Suunto design looks the best. They seem to be aware of the issue and will hopefully address it in future models.
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@duffman19 I can see that top-bottom part of lugs are rounded but side edge is still sharp. Which is the part hitting wrist bone unfortunately.
I didn’t express well myself. You are right that length of lugs are OK but the angle is a problem. Or attachment point of the lugs to the body.
I’m already testing nylon strap as I was used to it also with Garmin watches (their bands suck hard). Compared to Fenix I need to tighten the strap more to fix the watch on the place. I think it’s because of the lugs to body position or angle.
However this is only complain I have comparing to Garmin which sucks especially with nonsense metrics.
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@Emil-Červeňan said in Comfort - wrist bone rubbing:
Which is the part hitting wrist bone unfortunately.
Could it be that you’re wearing it too low ?
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@sartoric I can fix it with reasonable pressure “higher” on the arm during running but it will slip down during bike activities on the bumps. I think it’s a combination of factors like weight, lugs design, band type and acceptable band pressure which is subjective.
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@Emil-Červeňan Experienced the same when I tried the Race for a couple weeks. Wore it on some day-long hikes and at the end I had red skin where it was rubbing, and making the watch tighter just pulls it closer, that’s just how my wrists are. Returned it until Suunto makes a more sensible design decision. The watches look fantastic but comfort is more important.
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I just had my first run with Suunto Race, and it was literally biting the skin off nearby wrist bone. Damn such a nice watch, but have to return it.
Never had such issue, coming from Garmin, older Suuntos and Samsung.
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@noxxo I have also this issue with the Race. The thing is the watch slips and the issue happens for the (very well explained) reasons by @Emil-Červeňan . I have never had these kind of issues with other watches.
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I find my SV more really more comfortable that my previous F7X. In fact one of the reasons to move from Garmin to Suunto was that “bulky” F7 (I had F7 and F7X) HR sensor… I could barely wear the Fenix more than 1h without feeling pain.
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If your watch is slipping, its a bit loose - try a nylon/velcro Ultrafit type strap that holds the watch snug. They tend to be more adjustable than a buckle’d strap and its easier to get a better fit
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@Desdinova it is not only a problem of the band is slipping, but the design of the body legs
Have a look at this photo:
@Emil-Červeňan is right about this. When the watch touchs with those parts in the wrist bone, they can cut a bit the skin, like it happens for me as you can see in the photo (and the other users reports). This also happens with the Vertical: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9447/hardware-watch-cutting-my-wrists (I did not have the same issue as that user, but the thing is that those legs can cut in the wrist bone, and perhaps in the other side of the wrist, depending of your wrist)
The nylon band could be a solution, but that solution is unofficial and this is a design problem that should be solved in the next generation or revision of the watches. I’m also thinking that for now, a bit of plasticine or transparent silicone in the cutting edges could be used.
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@dreamer_ I have a same problem, somehow I got used to it. But Race is the first Suunto watch that causes this. It is very comfortable, but those sharp edges cause this.
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I do not know if it helps since I do not have this problem but see at the photos of my Ocean here: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11397/wildbery-ocean. Maybe wearing small textile braclet (if that is your thing) can help keeping the watch not hitting the bones.
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@EzioAuditore I find that a fantastic and very clean solution for the people having this issue.
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I have the exact problem with the watch cutting into my wrist. Especially bad with mountain biking.
I 100% agree it’s a design issue (not a “wear it higher” fix). -
M Mauerwegler referenced this topic on
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I run into the same issue after the second ride. There was a 2.5km dirt road section where the rubbing got a bit painful. CX bike on an agricultural service road. Nothing extreme.
The problem is as it is noted above the lugs’ shape. The inner surface of the lugs like a spherical surface. The result is the outer edges (blue arrows) are higher than the inner edges (orange arrows). The red surface should be parallel to the strap pin. Yeah sure they could be closer to the back plate as well.
I am thinking to send it back. I am not brave enough to file the excess material from the lugs. Since it definitely avoids warranty.
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Did anyone try bands like in the first picture? Maybe it can help. I give it a try. If it does not work, I will return the watch.
I have 185mm wrists. Those lugs above on my wrist not around it. That is the problem with this design. Maybe on smaller wrists lugs follows better the wrist curvature.
I tried Athletic 7 strap but in my opinion it is weak for the watch. I have nylon straps with velcro from Aliexpress (second picture). I will test them as well. They are thicker and stronger than the Athletic 7.
Third option is a nato strap (third picture). It elevates the watch a bit. Yes, it covers the PPG sensor. It is not a problem for me since I do not use it.
Fourth is the French parachute strap.
lint to the video where the screenshot is captured
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@szleslie I have a band that looks identical to your first picture. Via Amazon branded Helmut.
I find it excellent.
It is also much better if you use a bike mount. Mine is leather not nylon but they do a nylon version.
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I did a bike ride with a 3,7km off road section. NATO strap helped a bit, but lugs rubbing was an issue.
Watch slugs touch my skin. Lugs are lower than the back plane of the watch. Race S was better, since ohr sensor was the lowest point of the back of the watch.Just wearing the watch. It does not matter if it is snug, it slips down to my wrist. Tighten it more is not an option, it gets uncomfortable.
I wear it this tight. My wrist is 185mm. Lugs are over my wrist. I can imagine if someone has 150mm wrist the lugs follow the shape of their wrist.
NATO strap has 2 layers under the watch. It is not enough for me.
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@szleslie I have same straps as are on your picures. I am wearing it now for a year or so. the textile cover of the legs works perfectly. At least for me.
